Best American puncher

So either Shavers, Hearns, Louis, Saddler, Foreman, Tyson, Foster, etc

 

Best puncher and biggest puncher are two different things. I made that mistake too, and should have clarified in my threads.

I think most people would agree that Joe Louis is the "best" puncher in the boxing history.

 

Little Red Lopez has to be in the hunt for best American puncher.

 

3 time champ randall bailey

 

Best is definitely different to hardest, I think for best, it's a tie between Louis and Robinson. For hardest, Jackson, Sheppard and Shavers are the top three IMO.

 

Jackson counts as V.I. is a U.S. territory?

 

I would think so.

 

So then so do all the Ricans?

 

Goddammit!

 

A few Ricans truly can be considered Americans. Like Camacho, Ortiz, and Benitez... those guys were New Yorkers.

Gomez, Trinidad, Rosario, Cotto, ect., those are legit Island-based Ricans.

 

julian jackson is not fucking American. he'd probably tell you that himself.

 

but you don't seem to apply that same logic when it comes to Mexican Americans.

 

You mean in the thread I made yesterday? I didn't wanna convolute things, so I just asked among any fighter of Mexican descent. But Mexico is completely different than PR, as it's a separate country, whereas PR is a US territory.

 

So you're saying he hates America because of its freedom?

 

Andy Ganigan

 

That's my point! If you have a separate category for Puerto Ricans, and you're lumping Mexican Americans in with all fighters from Mexico (a separate country), it makes no sense to not lump Puerto Rican fighters in the U.S. in with all fighters in Puerto Rico.

I don't think the differences in sovereignty between countries and territories is really pertinent when talking about fighters.

 

probably.