Top 10 fighters with particular malice....

Some fighters just come off meaner than others (I guess it can be subjective). It doesn't necessarily mean they're better or worse. And it's not strictly about punching power either, although malice certainly does manifest in punches with bad intentions. My list is probably shit, but here goes.

Duran
80's Tyson
Liston
70's Foreman
Hagler
Qawi
PBF
Trinidad
McClellan
Toney

 

Quality List Doub...

REED's Own List Might Differ, But the ONLY Fighter He Would Say Doesn't Belong (From YOUR List), is Floyd...Floyd Punched w/SELECTIVE Malice, in REED's Opinion, Especially as he Moved Up in Weight...

DOPE List Beyond That Though...REED Will Come Up w/His Own...






REED

 

I dont agree at all with Floyd and Tito (to a lesser extent though). I would add Maidana, looked (and fought) like a guy that would cut fools up with a machete in a Bueno Aires slum had he not be a successful boxer

 

Mayorga and Kovalev come to mind

 

Maidana's in the Discussion for Sure...Ricardo Mayorga...Aaron Pryor...




REED

 

Wilfredo Gomez immediately came to mind and might be the best example. I think he enjoyed hurting his opponents more than Duran.

 

I get the point about PBF. He often fought safety first but he seemed bit sadistic in the ring at times. Leonard was like that too, even though he wasn't a traditional killer type

 

Benn
McClellan
Ketchel
Frazier
Saddler
Pedroza

 

Was going to add Benm, too. I'd also suggest Julian Jackson. Not because of his post, but because of his much he seemed to enjoy watching people react badly to it.

MTF

 

Ali's vivisection of Ernie Terell was as sadistic and malicious as it gets. His treatment of Fraser wasn't far off, too.

MTF

 

Definitely. Kov killed a guy and didn't give a fuck.

MTF

 

he did? when?

 

Miguel Happy Lora had quite a mean streak for being a defensive stylist.

 

He shot a man in Reno just to watch him die.

 

The only time I recall he displayed anything remotely close to a sadistic behavior was vs Gatti.

 

Great call on Kovalev (well the younger version, not the older pawing one). Mayorga to me seemed more if a wild horse than malicious

 

Yeah Mayorga talked like one but that was more bravado and promotion. In the ring he wasn't often particularly vicious, more so reckless as that was simply his style and skillset.

 

Sadistic was a poor choice of words by me. It suits Leonard but not Floyd.

However the way Floyd attacked Ortiz, how he humiliated Marquez and laughed at Manfredy, along with the Gatti torture, indicates that he had a mean streak in him, despite all his finesse

 

he was mean for sure

 

Leonard wasn't sadistic per say. He just had insane killer instinct once he smelled blood, there's a difference.

Leonard is more Tyson than he is a sadistic guy like Duran and Gomez.

Leonard and Tyson weren't in there to prolong punishment if they didn't have to. If they got you in trouble, they wanted to finish you right there and then.

 

Benitez was actually pretty nasty and mean for a cutie.

 

Zapata and Laguna were mean muthafuckers for such defensive stylists.

 

Yeah, Laguna was a tough guy. And speaking of Laguna, Buchanan was also very tough and mean for a slickster.

 

Bob Foster had an edge about him. I think he enjoyed hurting people.

 

I'll never forget what Foster said to Brian Kenny one time when he was the guest in the Friday Night Fights studio. "Sometimes, I just hated guys."

Foster was a cold dude. I heard that after he KO'd Quarry he said something to effect of: "Well, guess he's dead."

 

I embellished slightly, but only just. Boxer called Simakov(?)

MTF

 

Haven't watched a lot of him, but in the few fights i saw of him, ike williams looked like a real killer. So does Saddler

 

Ike Williams was merciless and terrifying. Quite possibly the most feared lightweight ever.

 

Ike Williams was a beast.

 

I would definitely put Floyd in there, he absolutely had a mean streak and enjoyed humiliating opponents.