Will Canelo go down as greater than DLH?

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  1. Xplosive

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    Simple question.
     
  2. Irish

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    Yes, and he should, too.

    Only black mark is the Clen.
     
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    It's CLOSE As Is, but There's Still a Bit of Work to Be Done in REED's Opinion...

    If Canelo Unifies '68, Beats David Benavidez, Moves Up to '75 and Beats Bivol and Beterbiev CONTROVERSY/CATCHWEIGHT/REHYDRATION CLAUSE FREE, DeLa's Officially In His Rearview Mirror...

    4 Fights Away from Removing Any and All Doubt, Basically...





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    It's not impossible, but I think it's unlikely. Canelo has no win remotely close to a win, even controversial, over Pernell Whitaker. Hell, De La Hoya's win over Quartey trumps everything Canelo's got outside of the GGG win.
     
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    Obviously the only way to determine this is for them to have match
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    Not yet….and I don’t think Canelo will surpass him.
    I give Canelo this he has stacked up his resume with some decent names the last 7-8 yrs….

    and unlike DLH….he went in there against his version of Trinidad(GGG)…got that gift draw and didn’t duck dodge he went back in for a return.
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    u know damn well that ain’t happening….
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    May 5, 2022…it can happen…I see it yuuugggeee PPV number GRANDE….
     
  9. Xplosive

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    I dunno if Canelo can catch Oscar resume wise, but peak-for-peak I dont see Canelo as good as 95-99 DLH.
     
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    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Hes surely on his way



    Edit: thinking about it more, and he still has a way to go. Vargas, Mosley, Tito, Quartey, Whitaker are all as good, or close to, GGG, whose the only marquee fighter Canelo beat.

    And while a bivol and betterbiev wins would be huge, i dont think he ever makes these fights (and nor should he) and i don't think he win them if he does
     
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    Oscar LOST to a lot of the guys people tout as the backbone of his big resume.
     
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    Yeah, but arguably, so has Canelo.
     
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    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    To be honest, except against pea, i dont think a lot of people have him losing the other fights
     
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    with whitaker and quartey, odh took shit because he couldn't "Leija" them (same with MAG). But he still beat them. And they were elite fighters.
     
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    He barely beat either, if indeed HE DID beat either.
     
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    can't see Plant beating Canelo.
     
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    Neither Can REED...




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    Plant will do better than the gypo did, but no, I dont see him winning.
     
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    Plant will be Canelo's easiest fight outside of Yildrim in years.
     
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    is there any doubt the delay in negotiations for alvarez-plant was so that alvarez had more time to finish his cycle?

    reynoso may as well be named frederico "the dope coach" cucaracha.
     
  23. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    When was Valdez supposed to fight?

    If it's more than in a few weeks or months, banning him for using a stimulant is absurd
     
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    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Supposedly , this thing is pretty much like mephenamine. Hard to see how this would give him an advantage so far from the fight
     
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    REED Knows You're the PED Guy Around Here and He Admittedly Has Little to NO Knowledge of Them...

    That Said, If There's No "Advantage", WHY is the Shit in Valdez's System @ All???...No One Takes Pills or Gets Injections for NATHAN...




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    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Dont really know anything about it, but from what i gathered, its like "speed". I guess he used it for weight cutting. Might be other use, and id be willing to hear about it if its the case.

    But, As i said before, Vada is way too strict. You can be banned for using cocaine a few weeks before a fight. Imo, They should stick to the heavy stuff like roids and hgh
     
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    Mephenamine is used to treat urinary tract infections. Is there a word misspelled?
    I have seen Mexican fighters inject a variety of things so I am open to all interpretations.
     
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    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Sorry. Amphetamine
     
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    Oscar Valdez’s A-sample tested positive for phentermine.

    @victorconte: "I personally have given athletes phentermine. … It is very powerful. … You know why it's a performance-enhancing. It gives you stamina. It makes it easier to breathe.” Full story

    Sources: Banned stimulant shows in Valdez test
     

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