Fighters similar to each other

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  1. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    When it comes to Locche, he just has layers upon layers of defensive techniques. He has that Duran/Qawi type jab-and-roll down, he can bob and weave with the best of them; he parries extremely well to both head and body, his slips and pulls are just perfectly timed and aside from also being able to go from shoulder rolling rights to slipping straight under lefts, he can also do the insane dodges where he stands straight in front of you, and just doesn't get hit which Zapata and Pernell did. But it's important to remember that he knew when to use the shoulder roll. Using it against a taller fighter with a big right hand like Hernandez is foolish, hence why Floyd didn't vs Corrales. And again, using it vs somebody with as devastating a overhand as Fuji had would be foolish, see how Mayweather abandoned it vs Maidana. The two best bits of film we have of Locche show he doesn't really depend on it, but has it in his arsenal. I can only assume going off the footage of the Laguna fight, that he does use it more often, but only as an add on to his already insane defence. He uses it to slip rights, and didn't build his entire style off it. His style was more based on adapting his upper-body movement to suit whatever was in front of him, and which defensive techniques kept his base and balance, and kept him in position to land his jab and hook to the body.

    Whereas Pep's offense was far, far more advanced. The shots he let fly vs Saddler before succumbing were dazzling. He has a list of stoppages which show, IMO, that his power is something which gets underrated. He had a much better jab than Locche, and a much more advanced inside game. His head-movement was even more based off his feet than Locche's, as he tended to inverse everything he did, rather than keep everything in one plane like most are taught. He moved inside with his feet while skipping outside, or vice versa. He also didn't really rely on defensive techniques or stances, he just sort of went out there and did it. When it came to his defence - specifically upper-body movement - there was a lot more thought in Locche's. However, Pep's feet and offense were much better.

    As a rule, these two don't really remind me of anyone, but if I were to pick one other defensive fighter, it'd be Canto. With the caveat that Canto to me, is a more fundamentally sound and textbook version of a Pep/Locche hybrid.

    There's many, many similarities between Sandy Saddler and his cousin's protégé, George Foreman. The obvious being chin + power, but the long guard, shoving and horrid hooks they threw being others. Saddler was a more refined technician with better stamina, but Foreman was more potent physically.

    There's several top South American (primarily Panamanian and Columbian) fighters who all have more than one thing in common. They're all fast and rangy, extremely slick and seem to have a nasty side; guys like Laguna, Marcel, Pedroza, Cermeno, Zapata, Lujan, Brown, Baby Luis, etc.

    James Toney and George Benton have a few things in common. Canelo reminds me a lot of Rodrigo Valdez. Canizales is a poor man's Napoles. Sung-Kil Moon and Tae-Shik Kim. Ward reminds me of Old Hopkins.
     
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    Tin_Ribs Shagger O'Toole's wind-dried puffin

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