Mismatches that would be exiting while they last

Don't know if this is quite the mismatch it first seems...

Matt Hilton vs Canelo Alvarez.

Would definitely be a tear up.

Truthfully I don't think Hilton has any issues with a lot of the guys Canelo beat.

The obvious one is Lara, due regard being had for the Hines fight.

I like Hiltons work rate, speed and power.

People say he tired but if there's a better "spurt" fighter out there than Canelo I've not seen him.

 

Hilton has a legit chance against Canelo if you match both at 20. In fact, I think the 20-year-old Hilton was better than the 20-year-old Canelo.

Once Canelo matured by age 24-25 though? Nah, I think he'd be way too good for Hilton and would light him up.

 

Jesus... Vargas against any stand out MW or LMW has the potential to be wildly exciting and one sided.

Vargas is literally built for world class fighters to look good against.

Even Norris has to start favourite.

Norris, McCallum, Jackson, Curry, Ray, Duran, Hagler, Tiger, Benvenuti, Giardello, Griffith.

Fights with people like Mazzinghi etc are wars.

Dude lucked out IMHO. He couldn't beat Winky, Oscar, Tito and he didn't show me too much vs Castillejo who wasn't really brilliant.

 

Probably... As Matt was also declining then too thanks to very good life decisions.

 

Yeah, but Norris-Vargas isn't a mismatch at all. Terry is the favorite, and would probably win, but Nando is live.

Same with Curry-Vargas. I would make Curry the favorite, but Vargas is live.

Vargas matched against a Leonard, McCallum, Hearns? Zero chance whatsoever of Vargas seeing the final bell, let alone winning.

Vargas also has no chance against the Duran of the Moore fight.

 

Its a mismatch until Norris tired or got hurt. Prior to that.... Its just Norris lighting him up. Of course if Troy Waters can drop Norris then yes Vargas has a good chance. But it's a horrid mismatch unless vargas does something to get into the contest. Something drastic, and early, or even when Norris tires, Fernando won't have anything left.

 

I dont see Terry as being good enough to call him a mismatch over Vargas. I remember like 20-25 years ago, I viewed Norris as almost like being on Leonard/Jones level - but I came down to Earth.

Terry Norris was not a great fighter. I would put him at the top echelon of very good.

Vargas has a chance, and it's a really good matchup. Say 91-92 Norris vs 99-00 Vargas. A really compelling matchup.

A mismatch would be a situation when there's no case presentable for Vargas winning. Someone could present a case for Vargas beating Norris, and it would sound logical.

It's not the outcome I would pick though. I do think peak Norris is too fast with too good an offense for Vargas.

 

I honestly think Norris is, as you say, the very bottom of the very top, but that he would shock people vs Vargas.

Vargas is the epitome of what that old bigot Snaggletooth tried to enunciate when he mumbled on about people "not facing no slick black fighters".

Hopkins would have also beaten 12 shades of shit out of Vargas, probably worse than Tito.

 

Well yeah, obviously Hopkins-Vargas would have been a gross mismatch. On size, and on ability. Vargas vs any middleweight great is a mismatch. It'd be cruel and inhumane what a Hagler or Monzon would do to Vargas.

 

Vargas is live against Norris and I do think that Norris’s tendency to make fights harder than they have to be would make this one very competitive. I like Norris to win it clearly, possibly stopping Vargas late. But he’d have to be careful his own damn self.

Vargas matches up horribly against Leonard , Hearns, McCallum, Jackson.
And yes, the Duran who beat Moore would vivir him a horrible beating. I think he gets schooled by Benitez too.

 

He's truly unique, I think he might be the only champion of recent years of serious note who would have universally no chance against so many of his bedfellows of yesteryear.

It's hardly surprising, his biggest wins are all over guys who campaigned at 147, and his worst losses are likewise.

 

I think a better prepared Quartey beats Vargas.

 

Yeah, what about Vargas vs. the current crop of fighters, like Stingers fighters the Charlo brothers?

 

but those same guys you're picking to beat him are routinely favored over odh, for example, or many other more recent top 154 pounders.

 

I’ll take Vargas over both Charlos.

 

I absolutely think that the 94-96 Quartey would have beaten Vargas.

The faded, inactive Quartey took 4 rounds off of him.

 

The Benitez that beat Duran vs Vargas is basically a mismatch.

Nando's chances of beating that El Radar are virtually none.

 

People are hard on vargas. While i was no fan, he gave two good fights to tito and dlh. I don't think he beat any great per se, but i don't think he's overmatched against all of them either

 

Irish is the only one who was too harsh on Vargas, by saying him vs Norris would be a mismatch. I think Vargas is a live underdog against Norris. He's live against Curry too.

I only said that Vargas was overmatched against the elite of the elite like Leonard, Hearns, McCallum, ect.

 

Honestly, even against these three, i only think that hearns mismatch him. The other two would best him up without too much trouble, but i see vargas being just a bit too competitive to call it a mismatch. I guess it depends on your definition of mismatch. For me, a mismatch is where a guy get blown out very rapidly, or doesnt win a second in a longer fight (a la hopkin tito). As i said, i think vargas would have enough moment of success against these two to not call them mismatches, but i don't think he is very competitive either