Roy, Toney, Cotto headed to the HOF

That first video was sad. Pops said he loved Toney like a son.

 

The first part of the post is your opinion, and the second is false. The fact is that media and fans scorecards were overwhelmingly in pac favor

 

While Boxing25 might underrate him, your post is a textbook example of why he is overrated by some. No way JMM whips his ass with every fighters currently below 140. In fact, I would make him the (slight) underdog vs Loma due to stlyles. I don't see how he troubles Crawford nor even Spence either.

Great, great fighter, but not on the same level as Pac nor is he on an higher level than Barrera or Morales either. I mentioned it before but imo, he loses to both Barrera and Cassamayor prime for prime (and yes, I know Marquez was ''older'' than both when they fought).

 

I don't especially like Bradley but he has a much stronger resume than Quartey. Not even close. Sure that wouldn't be the case had he gotten the decisions vs Dlh and Forrest, but he didn't so he's left without a true meaningful win.

 

Juan Manuel Marquez vs Manny Pacquiao Fan scorecards | EYE ON THE RING

General consenus is 7-5 Marquez, which means under a 10-point must system Pac 113-112

 

Bradley would have out-boxed Qwerts

 

I've mentioned this before. Mature Boxing fans in general have a tendency to overrate old school fighters. Whenever a mythical discussion takes place about an old school fighter taking on a current fighter 9 times out of 10 they'll give the old fighters the benefit of the doubt. I agree with you beating an over the hill Casamayor is not an indicator on how he would do against Loma, Spence or Crawford. People forget early in his career Morales and Barrera were the cream of the crop.

 

Thing is, Quartey pretty clearly beat Forrest and I’d argue he was robbed against a prime Oscar whereas Bradley’s biggest win is a bogus decision over Pac, but I do give him credit for beating Márquez.

I think Quartey deserves it more than Bradley.

 

Anyone going? I will try to attend.

 

No Mosley?

 

Mosley made it last year as class of 2021. Or class of 2020, I forget.

 

Yeah i don't think anyone remembers much about those years

 

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You were watching a different fight apparently.

 

I'll try to go.

 

i thought about goin, but now with Joe King in attendance the capacity may be exceeded.

 

I heard the buffet has been cancelled.

 

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If Fat Dan is gonna be there, how much space will be available?

 

Please attend so you can get knocked out like your daddy used to.

 

Who was the poster that made a tasteless joke about Korean cuisine at BF and got himself banned? (little did he know the owner of the site's wife was Korean) schmuck .

 

Kimba?

 

I'm not a JMM hater per say. I enjoyed his fights as much as the next man but that's irrelevant. What's important to keep in mind is this and let me very clear. I don't question that JMM isn't a good fighter what I'm questioning is does he belong in the HOF. Mexico has produced about 225 world champions throughout history. But only 16 Mexican Champs are in the HOF. Knowing that does Marquez deserve it?

 

He sure does deserves a spot in the hof. Hes much better and accomplished than cuevas, whos in the hall. Personally, i see him as being at the same level as mab and morales. Sure fire hof, but a bit below the atg level

 

Oh Jesus Christ! I said I felt Marquez was overrated, but doesn't belong in the HOF???? Lmfaooooooooo!!!!

This guy says some outlandish stuff.

 

I loved watching Marquez, wonderful technique and great to see in full flow. I agree with most that he's a great fighter but falls just below the elite guys. On the flip side his record outside of Pacquiao isn't nearly as weak as some people make out. I do think he was the best of the Mexican trio, though I'm a bigger fan of Morales and Barrera personally.

 

I always thought Morales was the best if the few.

 

I think it's close as hell between the three of them.

 

Yeah, same. Although I'd say Barrera achieved the least of the three and is further away from the other two in that regard than he was in ability.

 

Yeah.

Morales had the ugliest style of the three, but I would say that overall he was the best.