Kambosos vs Loma

I'm not even convinced he's better off at 140 without the lay off he had before Kambosos. He's not bigger than Haney, and Haney's fine at 135.

 

haney is another kid weakening himself to make 135lbs. whenever you are cutting muscle mass to make the lower division it is unhealthy.

 

So basically, all non heavyweights are weak at their weight

 

This is some serious Wald Pussy fanboy shit. All of these 147/140/135 fucking pretenders are fucking around. They all have Pugilistica Nerviosa , Delirious Instigramus etc. Shut up and fucking fight. Nobody cares how hard you can hit Jake Paul in the belly. Nobody cares about how you think you won that fight 10-2.

Right now Lomachenko is mooted to be en route to Australia , which is not near Ukraine or USA, to fight the man.

Fimo, Ryan, Haney etc need to start making some fights or just retire already. Same goes for Crawford and Spence.

These clowns with their shades and posses and their mental health issues ..

The sheer terror on display here that Lopez will lose a rematch to Lomachenko is baffling. All that would do is set up a lucrative rubber match. If Lopez lost both fights he'd make a fortune and move to 140 where people would think he was done, and he'd get fights easily.

The issue here is Lopez. He believes he got lucky first time out. I think he won legit , no questions, but the circumstances worked for him and he's pestered by the manner that he got walked down and hurt late on.

He's not afraid, physically, but he just can't deal with losing the rematch. His camp is toxic and he's got nobody to properly advise him.

 

Nah just Lopez. Never has a man been more suited to 140lbs than Lopez.

Unless Tszyu was at 140. Then he'd be finding a way to make 135 in a fucking hurry .

 

Facts. I blame Floyd. He helped popularize this overly cautious approach in match making. And since then, a lot of these guys have all adopted it.

 

Sincero, I was going to mention Floyd, then I felt it was going too far.

But it's true.

I read an article the other day that said more millennials believe they will be millionaires than ANY previous generation but that FEWER millennials will be millionaires than any other generation

Floyd millenialized boxing.

Guys literally are costing themselves tens of millions of $$ trying to protect that 0 that they think will.....make them millions

 

Right now a rematch between BEATEN FIGHTERS, Loma and Lopez, is one of the richer fights in boxing.

 

it all comes down to money. these guys just are not popular enough. the pie is not big enough.

but as a fan, i couldn't care less about the business side. i want to see the best fights.

 

For the record I don’t see guys like Spence, Crawford, or Ennis reaching the superstar status of Mayweather and Pacquiao. They won’t even get to Trinidad or De La Hoya star status.

May as well make the fights while they can still go in the ring.

 

Id like to see (re)matches between all of Loma, Lopez, Kambosos. Oddly enough I feel it’ll shake out Loma>Lopez>Kambosos, despite the W’s so far indicating opposite. Both fights so far were close, with alot more credit going to the underdog based on pre-fight notions rather than actual performances, and also non-typical factors at play like Lomas injury and Lopez’ ridiculous over confidence.

 

I don’t get it.. Floyd fought everyone that made sense at the time… just like Roy did but never got any credit because how ‘easy’ they made it look. Who did Floyd duck??? Or Roy for that matter?? Save the ‘Shitski arguments.

 

You don't get nuance or granularity, do you?

 

REED Obviously SLEPT On Kambosos, But Even w/IFFY Aussie Ref'ing and Judging, he AIN'T Beating Lomachenko...





REED

 

Loma was the Arrogant DUMBASS Who Shunned a Rematch Clause Altogether, When EVERY OTHER Elite Reigning Champion in the World Has Them in their Fight Contracts...

Rematch Clauses are INSURANCE, Not a Show of Weakness or Uncertainty...Loma Played HIMSELF Out of a RE w/Lopez, Who's Struggled to Make '35 for Years Now...

REED Can't See a RE Happening, Honestly...





REED

 

Loma had to give up a large portion of his purse to even get Lopez in the ring.

What makes you think Lopez would've took the fight if he had a rematch clause?

 

Because Lopez HIMSELF Requested a Rematch Clause in the Event He LOST His IBF Title...

"Loma Doesn't Do Rematch Clauses" was the Response He Got...





REED

 

Not Securing Rematch Clause Relegated Loma To Fighting Big Underdogs Lopez Already Beat

 

Lacking a rematch clause then, does not mean he shouldn't get a rematch now, two years later.

It would not surprise me if Lopez threatened to pull from the fight if Loma had a rematch clause AND demanded he had one himself. He was a real bitch in the lead up to that fight then Loma's camp just decided "yeah fuck it we'll beat this kid up anyway"

And boxing fans are funny. Hearns' fighters get blasted for always having them. Now Loma gets blasted for not having one?

 

REED Never Said Loma SHOULDN'T Get a RE Now, REED Said He DOUBTS it Happens Now Due to the Weight...Loma's SMALL As Is @ '35 and REED Doesn't Think Lopez Should Fight BELOW '40 Anymore...

'Fimo had ZERO Leverage Going into the Loma Fight, Which NOT Having the Rematch Clause he Requested Validates...

REED's Never Once Blasted a Fighter for Having a Rematch Clause...Again, it's INSURANCE, Not a Show of Weakness or Uncertainty...Mike Tyson, Sugar Ray Leonard, Oscar Dela Hoya, Roy Jones, Floyd Mayweather, Lennox Lewis, Deontay Wilder, Tyson Fury, Errol Spence, etc., ALL Routinely Had/Have Rematch Clauses in their Contracts...

But Vassily Lomachenko DOESN'T Have One and We're Supposed to Cry Rivers For Him???...

It was ARROGANT AF for Loma Not to Have One and He Only Has HIMSELF to Blame, if He Never Shares a Ring w/Lopez Again...You're Acting Like Loma's OWED Something He Willingly Fucked HIMSELF Out of...




REED

 

Lomachenko was arrogant but it shouldn't be used to perennially deny him.

In any event, we're one fight away from finding out if Lopez really wants that rematch at 135 or not.

 

To Say Loma's Being "Perennially DENIED" Insinuates He's Actually OWED Something...

What EXACTLY Is He OWED???...Who's DENYING Him???...




REED

 

1. A rematch.

2. Lopez.

As I say, it's moot now, more or less.

And if he beat Kamboso, then we get Lopez vs Kamboso II and Loma doesn't deserve squat

So it's all sorted out. More or less.

 

You're OWED a Rematch When it's Contractually OBLIGATED...

Even Jermell Charlo, Who You were DISMISSIVE About Just Yesterday, Had a REMATCH CLAUSE In Place When He Lost to Tony Harrison...And Guess What, Charlo Got his Title Back in an Immediate RE...

To Call a Rematch Clause COMMON PRACTICE Is a Fucking UNDERSTATEMENT...EVERYfuckingBODY Has Them in the Contract, If/When They Have the LEVERAGE Loma Had...

If Anything, Loma OWED it to Himself to Not to Be a ARROGANT ASSHOLE, Taking "Teafima Lopez" as He Called Him, Lightly...PROTECT Yourself on the Business End, Like EVERY OTHER GREAT FIGHTER Has, for the Last 30 Fucking Years, and Then Run it Back...

Again, a Rematch Clause is INSURANCE for All Intents and Purposes, Yet Loma was Basically an UNINSURED Motorist Who Got Into an Accident, Who's Now OWED Something After the Fact, Per YOU???...

There's a ZERO % Chance YOU, In Particular (You and REED BOTH Know This to Be FACT!), Would Afford this SAME Luxury to EVERY Fighter Across the Board, Who Neglected to Have a Rematch Clause in Place...But Since it's Loma, He's OWED Something???...

To Be Clear, REED Ain't Saying he DOESN'T Want to See a RE, But he Vehemently Disagrees w/the Notion Loma is OWED a RE...When You Willingly Fuck YOURSELF Out of Another Opportunity as Such, You're Not OWED Shit...

Hold Loma Accountable, Not "Teafima"...




REED

 

Loma gave up part of his purse to make the Teo fight; lost a very close fight while injured, and has since been more impressive against Lopez's two best wins prior to Loma. He's front runner to fight the man who beat Lopez up.

He's already owed a rematch and when he beats Kambosos, Lopez would be an idiot to turn him down.

 

w/All DUE Respect George (Seriously), One of Us is BIASED Here and it Damn Sure AIN'T REED...

Loma Gave Up Part of His Purse Because He Wanted "Teafima's" Title and Due to Covid and NO Live Gate, Top Rank COULDN'T Put it on PPV as They Originally Hoped...Let's Not Pretend Loma was Being Kind and Benevolent; the Funds Simply WEREN'T There to Justify His Pay During a Pandemic...

In the SAME Breath, You READILY Accept Loma's Injury, Yet DISMISS the Possibility of "Teafima" Having Trouble Making '35 ALTOGETHER???...Can't Burn the Candle from Both Ends Bruh...

If You're LEGIT Injured AND Don't Possess a Rematch Clause, Simultaneously, WHYtheFUCK Are You Going Thru w/the Fight???...PLEASE ANSWER THIS QUESTION!!!!????...

Beyond That, Loma Categorically DID NOT Beat Commey as IMPRESSIVELY as "Teafima" Did...KO 2 vs UD12???...REALLY???....

@ Least Irish Can Acknowledge the Clear ARROGANCE Loma Exhibited; You're Not Even Capable of That...He's Not OWED Shit and it's By his OWNfuckingDOING???...




REED

 

I'm so biased, that I prefer Lopez to Loma and have done for years.

Loma is exceedingly arrogant, and it's his own fault he fucked up. But he's done more than enough to earn a rematch, regardless of a clause or not.

How's that for not capable

 

after lopez knocks taylor out then we will see how interested in a rematch lomachenko is.

 

Lopez ain't knocking Taylor out

 

Btw, Teo himself admits that making weight is hard but he can do it fine and he's a monster on fight night.