Greater/Better: Hector Camacho vs Mark Johnson

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  1. Xplosive

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    I think we all assume you're gonna say Camacho, no?
     
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    My immediate reaction was Too Sharp and I'm sticking with it. He was better but Camacho was greater.
     
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    I'm not sure if Too Sharp was ever as special as Camacho was at 130.
     
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    I find Camacho quite overrated. Freakishly talented, but basic and easy to dissuade. I'd take quite a few over him at 130, and lots 135.
     
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    Yeah I was about to say Camacho. But you've nailed it...an absolute freak talent but let's say this:- who is the best fighter to ever evidently duck Camacho?

    Cos Mark Johnson's is Johnny Tapia.

    Camacho can't say he ever had anyone that good run not once but twice from him.

    Johnson was a black fighter in divisions not traditionally occupied by those, especially African-Americans.
     
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    It's hard for the midgets to be regarded as great.
     
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    Johnson is without question the greatest Black American fighter below 118.

    Unless I'm missing someone, Johnson and Jeff Chandler are the two greatest African American fighters below 130.
     
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    Sandy Saddler. Technically he was 130 as well but 126 more famously.
     
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    Shit! Knew I forgot someone important. And Armstrong.
     
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    Johnson is on his own down there. Tapia would rather fight , well, everybody else than fight Mark.....
     
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    what about shakur stevenson?
     
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    Robert Louis Stevenson has a better shot.
     
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    shakur stevenson at featherweight would have kicked the shit out of the phony cyclone.
     
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    Blah blah blah Barry batters basely the Baltimore bunion.
     
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    Shakur never did jack shit below 130.
     
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    Stevenson is probably too green below 130 to pick him over prime McGuigan.

    Will he peak higher than McGugian at 130? Very probably.
     
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    He's DURT
     
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    where does stephen fulton rank among sub 130 american black fighters?
     
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    Camacho is the greater fighter but I consider Johnson as the more skillfull boxer, who just has more offensive variety despite his slower footwork. Johnson hasn't beaten anyone that's on the same level as Edwin Rosario or Jose Luis Ramirez, let alone Mancini (and no I don't count wins over an old SRL or Duran).
     

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