Canelo vs Bivol Predictions

Canelo will win the rematch. Forgkt to give him the 5th, thats all.

 

Canelo's people are idiots. Why fight a completely unknown skilled guy. This was the Mexicans big weekend give canelo some brawler to ko in style. Why fight a skilled uknown?

 

I wonder if this is a blueprint Benavidez can follow. Though admittedly, Benavidez isn't as defensively responsible and disciplined as Bivol.

 

Forget those guys, what about Kovalev's "performance".

 

Bivol will need to be more dominant in the rematch because the judges will look to give it to Canelo if he wins another round or so next time.

Bivol needs to go for a stoppage.

 

Canelo needs to move onto the next phase of his career. Coke and fishnet stockings.

 

Both klitshko are despicables cunts

 

Smith and those should be ashamed , treating Canelo as if he was Mike Tyson.

 

To look at the guy Beevol, who has made deals with no devils to get where he is today, being criticised by a Klitschko whose money is made and whose fortune is certain, is a fucking disgrace.. How much Russian gas has he burned in this years in Germany? Where are his investments tied up? Dickhead.

 

Meanwhile, at UFC 274

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What I took away from this fight is that Canelo is not a great fighter and neither is Roy Jones or Mike Tyson. I know it sounds crazy right? Canelo looked like a bully getting whooped. Where was the "Mexican style" when the going got though? True greatness is not defined by steam rolling guys and being dominant. True greatness is overcoming adversity. Guys like Ali, Leonard, Duran all did it. Ali with Frazier. Leonard with Hagler. Can anyone name one fight where Tyson, Canelo or Roy overcame adversity? I can answer that zero.....If they weren't dominating their competition they lost. Tyson never had a come from behind victory ala Ali Vs Fraizer. Roy was always superior in natural talent than his competition (Speed, Size, Power) but when he ran into guys that fought back he got whooped. Same with Canelo he looked discouraged. Like a guy that stopped trying to win and just in there to survive. Like when Tyson fought Douglas.

 

Roy did take Griffin to task in the rematch . Sometimes guys fall behind for the same reason they can't get back ahead, the other guys just too good....or they themselves are too far gone....very few fighters have CFB wins over opponents of an equal caliber,if you add it all up.

Alvarez problems are not his mentality alone but his style....he's too methodical to really change the direction of a contest that's slipping away.

He's good enough to adjust for a rematch. That's different.

Much like lomachenko I never ever regarded Alvarez as a unique generational talent. In fact he's not even as good as Lomachenko.

There's been a lot of smoke and mirrors employed by Team Alvarez to get to where he's at today..

 

Lol is that real?

 

Griffin is not a great fighter though. Roy was the favorite in that fight. And the first fight was a fluke win for Griffith because of the DQ (hitting while the guy is down.)

 

That fight was Ruiz-Oquendo bad so I'm going to say yes, i think in my mind

 

Griffin would out-box Canelo

 

"I HATE JAZZ"

 

Exactly, how is it not racist to punish Bivol simply because he's Russian?? In fact, even if he supported the war it would still be a travesty to ''cancel'' him since we are supposed to have the right to freedom of speech (and I don't want to hear the ''it's a private company decision'' argument).

In fact, if Wlad wants to find someone to blame for the tragedy that is going on in Ukraine he doesn't have to search neither far nor wide. He just has to look at his big brother and other corrupted/dimless politicians over there who, instead of supporting the implementation of the Minsk II agreement and peacefully end the brutal civil war that was going on for 8 years, were more eager to waponize their country and push for a military solution (with the US tacit approval). How dumb can that be when you consider the geopolitical realities of the country??

As the old saying goes, be careful what you wish for, and they got way more than they imagined in their wildest dreams. Sadly, it's the common folks that will bear the brunt of the suffering while western media shamelessly exolts Zelensky and other Ukrainian nationalist politicians who are just as guilty as Putin

 

Absolutely. Griffith would box the fuck outta Canelo.

This doesn't really affect too much how I think Canelo would fare against 168 greats. Never thought he had a prayer against Jones, Calz, Toney, and Ward in the first place.

But I think it definitely shows that he doesn't belong matched up with any quality light heavyweight in history. He'd get thrashed by a SHIT TON of light heavys in history.

 

Even if none of that were true- it is but let's say it wasnt- why should some Asiatic dude born in Kyrgyzstan I think- which is where Vitali was born- suffer as a result of somebody else's decisions?.

It's totally totally stupid and ridiculous..the guy is innocent of ANY wrongdoing at all..

Didnt the Klitschko's go and fight and make money in America after the invasion of Iraq ....yes, they did.

Beevol is innocent..

 

Anyone who says Roy or Mike (especially Roy) is not a great fighter, should not be taken seriously at all.

Just because your boyfriend was whooped, dont try to use it as an opp to diminish other guys.

Roy would have beaten the ever living fucking shit outta Canelo. And no, not just because he was bigger. Also because he was several levels better.

 

Exactly, Canelo's a very good fighter but not an exceptional one. This loss is far from the end of the world for him though as it was:
1. (relatively) close
2. to a bigger man
3. to a total unknown (who'll stay unknown no mattter how long he keeps winning).

He should really aim for a 3rd Golovkin fight in the short term and, if he wins impressively, no one will remember the Bivol fight.

 

I think he'd lose to McClellan because he's not intense enough and he'd take a lot of punishment long before he found the gears to start getting to Gerald .

I think guys like Collins could fight him hard and so could guys like Kessler .

He's done well but he's not this animal they say he is.

 

I think circa 05-07 Kessler would beat him.

 

It's the styles.....Canelos intensity is a bit like Usyks intensity, he mentally pressures people into tiredness so that their activity rate is as bad as his. Then he imposes his style with those calculated attacks.

Anybody who is able to touch him up regularly has a great chance.

 

Lots of clusters and decent speed..not so weak he's gonna fall apart at first contact..once you got that, you're in.

All these guys got height and reach and speed advantages.

Canelo will not go medieval like Benn or Froch..

He just won't walk in there and let his hands go in a mad fashion but that's what you need sometimes.

 

Definitely a contender for the dumbest decision ever in boxing's history. Fight a bigger, skilled, safety first opponent with no fan base nor recognition and who happens to be Russian

And not even a ''good'' russian that you could play as a proper heel but a nerdy looking introvert one who's most Americans would think is latino or Chinese .

The only saving grace is, as I discussed above, that it probably won't harm Canelo's long term prospect too much.

 

He didn't want to lose weight and he didn't want to fight BetterBeevol, so he fought Beevol.....the Slovalev fight went to their heads.

 

If Benavidez's chin holds up, I'm not really seeing how Nelo is winning that one.

Shitty Charlo, Canelo beats him.

 

That's the only thing I can think of. Didn't want to cut weight. Still, why not fight a (relatively) scrubby Joe Smith instead ?? Was his fight with Beterbier already signed at the time ??