Gervonte Davis

Teo wants Tank at 140.

Everyone wants Tank right now. He's by far the premier money guy in the sport below 168.

 

Tank was worried about what was coming back against Rolly......Tank can't be a counter puncher against Haney. He will have to be the aggressor.....

Let see what happen this week vs. Kambosos...

 

Yes, we do have to wait until after Sat to handicap how Haney does against Tank.

 

I think you guys are underestimating Kambosos a little. Sure, he's nothing special. But neither is Haney. There isn't a massive speed difference and despite being the more skilled of the two; Haney still gets hit a lot. Kambosos isn't gonna have any fear about what's coming back and it wouldn't surprise me if he managed to make Haney crumble in the late rounds.

 

I mean, it wouldn't be a massive shock if Kam wins. Kam isn't a bum, but he also isn't particularly good.

Put it this way, if Fimo had taken him seriously, we would have forgotten Kambosos' name forever.

If Haney fights to his full potential he'll outbox Kam.

 

I agree, Kambosos only got his titles coz Lopez fought like an idiot. He thought he could walk through Kambosos and he couldn't.

I think there's a good chance Kambosos can walk through Haney, though. I'd have took Lopez even of the Kambosos fight to stop Haney and Ryan.

 

If Kambosos manages to beat Haney convincingly I honestly would love to see a Tank vs Kambosos down the road. I'd be curious to see how Kambosos chin holds up against Tank seeing as he managed to get up from Teo's punches.

 

Kambosos to me is like a really poor man's Greg Haugen.

Jack of all trades counterpunchers who might not seem like much because they aren't blessed with a ton of ability, but they can surprise you.

Haugen was A LOT better than Kambosos though.

 

Tank would knock the shit outta Kambosos IMO.

If Fimo had taken Tank as lightly as he took Kam, Fimo would have been in a hospital.

 

Nah, I think Kambosos is awful for Tank.

Long limbs with higher volume mess with Tank. Look at the Santa Cruz and Barrios fights.

Kambosos would be easily able to replicate their success and I highly doubt he gets caught with the same shots they did. He's a lot smarter and quicker than either.

And Teo hits harder than Tank anyway, so I don't see why Kambosos couldn't take Tank's power. Tank's finishing ability is really overrated too.

Tank would've battered Lopez if he'd fought like that against Tank, though. No doubt.

 

I think you're on an Island all by yourself in thinking Lopez is a bigger puncher than Davis.

While the Julian Jackson comparison was going overboard, Davis is truly a murderous puncher.

 

Also, Davis is a good finisher. He's one of the best finishers in the sport TODAY, that's accurate to say.

No one has ever compared him to historically great finishers like Tyson, Leonard, Louis, so he's not being overrated as a finisher.

You're just really biased against Davis, and when I call you out on it you'll try to deflect by saying I'm fanboying, when I don't even like the guy. I was openly rooting for Rolly on Saturday.

But a spade is a spade. Davis is a big puncher, and when he has a guy on Queer Street, he generally knows how to close the show. He didn't against Gamboa, true, but there's examples like that to glean from most guys. Josh Taylor had a bum like Baranchyk down TWICE, and had Ramirez all but out TWICE... couldn't close the show either time. Taylor still gets called a good finisher.

We've seen enough BAD finishers over the years to know that Davis is more than competent at it.

 

I'm sure I am, but I'm yet to see any reason to actually believe Davis' one punch power is bigger than Lopez's. I think the truth is that they're probably equally as powerful and until one does something crazy to separate it - like KOing a tough welter - the difference is pretty negligible IMO. If you can take one of their punches, you can probably take the other's.

I think calling him one of the best finishers in the game is overrating him as a finisher. I think the truth to being able to put everyone away is that his opposition has been absolutely terrible. It isn't just the Gamboa fight. He took eight rounds or so after first hurting Barrios to get rid of him; and the Fonseca fight was abysmal all round. I'm sure if he fought a tough, negative fighter, he'd fail to put him away. I think there's a lot of guys right now who can finish people better; they just fight better opposition - Inoue, Crawford, Donaire, Gonzalez, Beterbiev, Benavidez, Canelo, GGG, Ennis. I'm sure if I put some more thought into it I could come up with some more.

I'm not bias against Davis, I just don't think highly of him. His style is my favourite of the four 'kings' and he's my second favourite in general - after Teo, mind you - but I don't rate any of them highly. In my head, he's the best of the mediocre bunch and he isn't particularly far above the others. I wanted him to win on Saturday.

In fairness, it's probably me who called Taylor a good finisher in the past, but I wouldn't agree with that myself now. I don't think he's a bad one; and I don't think he's as good at it as Tank is, but that doesn't mean I think Tank is one of the best.

 

Every single guy you mentioned there is just a better fighter than Davis in general.

There's been plenty of guys over the years who didn't even understand how to put away mediocre guys when they get them in trouble.

Tank closes the show better than average. I don't recall anyone ever lauding his finishing ability, anyway. His punching power, yes, and his power is elite.

 

No Disrespect AT ALL George, REAL TALK…

You’re Infinitely MORE Knowledgeable About Our Sport Than REED Was at Your Age…EASILY!

But w/That Said, How Can a Guy w/25 KO’s in 27 Fights NOT Be a Good Finisher Bruh?…

REED Agrees, it’s Time for Tank to Face ELITE Guys from ‘30-‘40, But the Results We’ve Seen Are That of a Finisher…



REED

 

You can't have a high KO % and not be a finisher. Power alone isn't enough if you have no clue how to finish.

I dunno how he can be overrated as a finisher cause no one has ever called him Ray Leonard or Marvin Hagler as a finisher.

I think he's a better finisher than Fimo, as I don't really consider Fimo a true finisher type. Would Fimo have stopped an old Gamboa before 12? Yeah, probably.

But Tank would have stopped the incredibly average Nakatani, so it balances itself out.

 

I just think Fimo's mindset was different against Loma. It was 100% focus. Nothing rushed, as Lopez realized he was gonna have to be brilliant for 12 rounds.

Against Kam, he honestly thought he could abandon his jab and any setting up of shots and still ice Kam within 2. When he found out that wasn't the case, he seemed mentally lost.

Had he taken Kambosos as seriously as Loma, I think he would have used his superior speed to walk Kam into a big shot.

However, did we all overrate Fimo as a technician? Yes, I think we did.

 

Loma choked in his biggest fight. Simple as that. He was too spooked to walk through the fire necessary to beat Fimo.

Kambosos is a lesser fighter than Loma, but stood and faced the fire.

 

We'll see. I'm gonna wait until after Saturday to render judgment on either against Davis.

I suspect Haney would beat Davis, but if his chin falls apart on Saturday, obviously that suspicion wouldn't be correct.