Kambosos vs Haney June 5th

I thought Haney got caught a bit too much tonight to make him a lock over Tank. As I said it's the first time I properly watched him so maybe he is one of those guys who finds something that works and just sticks with it, he won't bring anything else out of the tool bag unless needed. In this case the jab was enough and Kam isn't a big puncher, you'd like to think he'd have a different approach against Tank. He'd obviously need more than a jab to win against Loma too.

 

Haney won 9-3. Showed a sharp jab and good counters.

Haney schools Ryan and Tank, but loses to Shakur, Teo, and Loma IMO.

 

They can't help it. It's a modern phenomenon...... Broner, Garcia, Looez, Haney. All these failed dads living in the Instagram moment.

 

Lopez must be trying to figure out whether to cry or laugh. I wonder how much he lost last night.

 

Yeah Lopez has gotta be feeling so stupid. Kam is just an average fighter at the end of it all. Lopez really beat himself more than Kam beat him that night and took the L like a bitch. I’m sure his father being in his ear doesn’t help either.

 

Haney looked great to me thought hr lost maybe 2 and 12 and that's it. He doesn't react well to getting hit, but that doesn't necessarily make him Chingy.

I like him to beat the rest of the bunch at 135, Shakur if he fills out will be interesting.

 

Kam intends to exercise the rematch clause...

Most pointless rematch ever.

 

Tank needs to get busy or the Loma-Fimo-Haney circus might deem him surplus to requirements. If the (seemingly pointless ) rematch comrs off, Tanks gonna ned a high profile fight to make sure he's not overlooked..... the probkem is who

 

Absolutely. There was no need for him to make a statement and instead he managed to lose. Embarrassingly so. He had so much kudos from the Loma fight and he managed to blow it. I think he really should offer Loma that rematch. If he wins, he wins. If he loses, he still wins cos boxing, being what it is, people will think he's washed up and he'll probabky suddenly get offers galore. But i bet his asshole management ("Dad") can't see that.

 

Ryan.

Obviously Tank would most fancy Ryan. The kid is a bum, and a much easier matchup than Haney/Loma/Shakur would be.

 

Yeah but its fraught..... That thing could be signed and then Ryan injures his IG account and the fight gets canceled. Just a total waste of time dealing with that guy.

 

Ryan is totally unreliable which is why I’m in favor of Golden Boy cashing out on him while they can. The kid already has commercials. He’s definitely Hollywood bound once he’s sick of boxing.

 

Haven't seen Kambosos so couldn't make a prediction. Haney is my favorite young fighter right now, not because he's fun to watch, but because he reminds me a lot of SRL.
Only saw the last 3 rounds on TV.

Was actually at the Fulton fight. Fulton has some real skills, but Roman was bad enough that I don't know how good Fulton is. Fulton not a great watch either.

 

Hope he has a few KO losses like Amir Khan before he tries to go Hollywood.

 

Agreed, and even if he is, it's not like he's Right Thurr to get hit, he's defensively responsible.

 

What regrettable thing did Lopez do/say regarding the fight? I looked but can’t really find what this is about…

 

Did you see his fight against Jorge Linares? He looked damn close to getting dropped/KO’d towards the end. Like if there was a 13th round he’d not have seen the end of it close. The impression I got was he’s good defensively… until he gets hit.. after that he seems to turtle up and not in a good way. ‘Bosos plain sucks, he simply rammed a hard shot into a windmilling ‘Fimo and that’s the entire basis of his one and only notable victory he will ever see. Tank, Loma, and likely Fimo would be major problems for Haney.

 

Nothing much...just angry/in denial that he took the L against Kambosos....

 

Haney reminds you of WHOO????

 

Teo's response is very alarming. It indicates that he's never gonna take accountability as a fighter, and will never be willing to learn from his mistakes.

The response we would wanna hear is: "I fucked up against Kambosos. I wasnt as focused as I should have been. I didn't train like I should have. It won't happen again."

Instead, he's in total denial and wants to paint his L as a conspiracy.

Once again I'll say... a whole bunch of red flags are going up around Fimo.

He doesn't seem to have the maturity and mental toughness of a great fighter.

Haney probably beats him. Simply because Devin takes the sport a lot more seriously.

 

Haney honestly reminds me a lot of Wlad than he does Ray Leonard.

 

Haney's like a farrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr farrrrrrrrrr lesser Ward.

I dunno how TF someone gets Ray Leonard out of him.

Ray Leonard would have Andy Price'd a guy as average as Bosos.

 

some of the "mannerisms" are similar to SRL. the way he holds his guard, for example.

 

I rewatched the fight. Haney's clinic was better than I initially gave it credit for. It won't be remembered in history, because it wasn't captivating the way Mayweather-Corrales and Jones-Toney were, but it was a nice boxing exhibition.

It's cool that there's two young cats in the sport, Shakur and Haney, who are actually really quality pure boxers. Nice to see that technical skill in the sport hasn't died.

I feel pretty confident that Haney beats Tank, though I'm sure he'd be the betting underdog. I think Haney is way too tall and rangy, and too technically sound for that t-rex armed dwarf. Tank got outboxed for 5 rounds by a guy who can't box a lick.

An actual quality operator like Haney, who's also a bigger man, will completely undress Davis imo.

 

I can somewhat see it. His guard is like a hybrid of Floyd and Leonard. I mean, he's missing Floyd's defensive reflexes, and he's missing Leonard's handspeed and power, but it's still a highly effective guard for him.

Fimo's guard is obviously HEAVILY influenced by Roy... too bad he doesn't have a fraction of Roy's ability.

 

I think Haney's skill is overrated still. Sure, I was wrong about Kambosos but I thought Kambosos would pressure and attack Haney, not just literally do nothing. I don't really see him as a true technician in the way I do Usyk or Ioka. I think he relys on being very athletic and huge for the weight more than he does skill - although that's not to say he doesn't have a good jab and solid feet. Shakur is both far more talented and skilled IMO.

 

Kambosos isn't a pressure fighter, so I'm not sure why you anticipated him taking that approach. He wasn't gonna miraculously turn into Kostya Tszyu.

I dunno if its a more a deal of you underrating Haney or overrating Kam, but probably a mix of both.

You said that Kam would school Tank, but as I thought, that simply wouldn't happen. Tank would stretch Kambosos... Bosos is an EXTREMELY average fighter.

Honest to God, and I'm being serious about this... Bosos vs Rolly would be a 50/50 fight. Both guys are better than bums, but they aren't good fighters either. There's no "perfect tools" that Bosos has to beat Davis. He would get knocked out. He's easy as fuck to hit, and his chin ain't great. That combination isn't beating Davis.

You also said that Haney is no better than Ryan, when its apparent that Devin is much better developed for the pro game than Ryan's mediocre, unskilled ass.

I suspect that if Haney fought Loma, you would underrate him again and pick a Loma domination, but really there's no basis for it.

Loma has never beaten a fighter as good and as big as Haney. I wouldn't put it past Loma winning, but Haney would have an excellent chance.

 

Haney has a chance against anyone from 130-140, with Shakur being the guy who I think most has the style to neutralize him.

I wouldn't count Haney out against Loma. Nor would I count him out against Taylor, considering we just watched Josh get outboxed by a guy who's every bit as mediocre as Kambosos.

Fimo? I dont trust him anymore. I think he would just walk into Haney's one-two all night, then cry after and call it a conspiracy.

I don't like Haney. I dont hate him, he's just bland and boring, but I gotta call it like I see it. He's a class fighter.

He's never gonna be Ward or Crawford level good, but he's a damn class fighter... although a boring one.

 

He has moments where he's a very good pressure fighter. Well, very good compared to the rest of his game.

Also, I thought he was good enough to at least hang with Haney if he didn't pressure constantly. I was wrong. Dead wrong - I envisioned a fight where Kambosos actually threw punches. I maintain that Kambosos would do very well against Davis. And he has a chin good enough take Tank's best IMO. And Kambosos is a massive favourite over Rolly. I'm not even getting into why.

If you think those two are even, you're essentially saying Haney's win over Kambosos is worth as much as Davis' over Rolly.

I think Ryan has a good chance against Haney for the same reasons Linares did well. Sure, Haney is improving but Ryan's speed and power give him a good chance. Haney comes in 20lbs heavier than the limit and still has no power or chin.

I don't pick Loma to completely dominate him, but I pick him to win clearly. 8-4 or so. Shakur too. I'd take a healthy Taylor to overwhelm him. More skilled, almost as athletic and much tougher.


I'm only really impressed by a few fighters around that weight. Haney isn't one of them, neither is Tank and neither is Ryan.

I think Prograis has a good chance to beat Haney at 140.