Top Ten Technicians of the 2000s?

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  1. George Crowcroft

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    Obviously Mayweather and Hopkins are #1 & #2. But who's after that?

    In all honesty, Marquez, Barrera and Pacquiao would have to make the list IMO.

    I'd have Penalosa in there as well, personally. Like, high high up.
     
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    Oh and I should say this is specifically the 00s.
     
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    Outside Mayweather, BHop, JMM, Barrera, and Pac I would say that Kostya Tszyu, Winky Wright, Vernon Forrest, Joel Casamayor were top technicians of the 2000s.
    Penalosa is a great shout. Also thought Chad Dawson and Joan Guzman were great technicians in the late 2000s.
     
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    rigondeaux obviously must be up there

    marquez #1
     
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    Rigo fought like three times in the 00s. He's not in any more than Roberto Duran.
     
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    Rigondeaux won 2 gold medals in that decade and would have easily been 3 if he didn't defect. If he'd have defected after his first gold we never would have even heard of pacquaio
     
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    And yet he had four pro fights. Against nobodies.

    He doesn't count.
     
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    why not? i saw no specification about amateur or pro

    he certainly could have easily made 118 at any point in the mid 2000s to lay an epic beating on penalosa
     
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    mario kindelan was also one of the best technicians of the 2000s although he never had the opportunity to prove it at the professional level as rigondeaux eventually did.
     
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    So, if Rigo had defected, turned pro five years earlier, cut down to a weight he didn't fight at as a pro until his late 30s - a full decade after the cut off point - he could've laid a beating on Penalosa? That's your argument? And Rigo never put a beating on any world class fighter, let alone one with a defence as good as Penalosa's.

    He doesn't count, and even if he did, he wasn't as good a technician as any of the guys I mentioned in the OP.

    He'd be top ten in the 2010s, though. Easily.
     
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    :Jest: cut down. cut 1 pound?

    He should have defected after his first gold medal in 2000-2001. sticking around the cuban program just made him less aggressive.

    Im not advocating him cutting to bantamweight when he turned professional, although he EASILY could have. if there was a money fight at that weight im sure he would have.

    i see zero evidence he became any more skilled in 2010 than he was previously. if anything he was at the end of his peak and less sharp midway thru that decade.
     
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    Pacquiao????

    I disagree vehemently
     
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    Feel free to. I think by the time he fought Morales III, Hatton, Diaz, De La Hoya etc, he was an excellent technician.
     
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    And there's zero reason to include a guy who fought four times in the decade.

    Should win include Loma and GGG too for their amateur work?

    No.
     
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    Lomachenko would definitely deserve inclusion if he had dominated the first half of that particular decade as he did the latter half
     
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    leave the amateur shit out of this.
     
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    Tszyu deserves some inclusion for his run from 2000-2004
     
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    Tszyu is a weird one, I never thought much of him in the pro ranks but he looked sensational in the amateurs, especially against Forrest.
     
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    I don't really think much of Tszyu as a technician. Very upright and mechanical.
     
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    Not a great fighter but Cotto was a smooth technician.
     
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    I've said it a few times, I love watching Cotto in 'boxing mode', much moreso than I do his usual aggressive style.
     
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    I think "boxer" Cotto was unbelievably overrated, and not that fun to watch.

    He was better being aggressive. He really wasn't particularly special as a boxer.

    All his best performances (Pinto, Quintana, ect.) came in attack mode.
     
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    Agreed, very strong and good timing with the right hand, but never saw him as a great technician either.
     
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    Ricardo Lopez had textbook technic
    Edit: just saw he only fought twice in the 00' so don't really fit. Maybe Tarver then, though he could get sloppy
     
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    How could we forget James Toney
     
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    He mainly had a good run up to 2003 when he fought Holyfield, I wouldn't count him as a top technician of 2000s.
     
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