Is Canelo racist?

It's no secret I'm a Canelo fan but I need to call it like I see it. Him saying he's avoiding "Mexican fighters" is not a good look. And add to that he's been called out by Andrade, Charlo and Benevidez and has flat out said he wont fight them. It's frustrating as a fan because those are fights the fans want to see. If he fights Bivol next ill be rooting for Bivol to knock him out to put an end to this deslusional idea that he can ever be undisputed at 175.

And as far as this young lady Shields. Booboo must be fucking her because she is all over his nuts. I mean after his latest stunt( pulling out of yet another fight with Parker) Andrade really has no argument for saying he's being avoided. Wtf is wrong with boxing good lawd.

 

I’ve always felt that the best thing Canelo has had going for him is his match making. This doesn’t mean he sucks, obviously. But it’s clear that his opponents have for the most part been well selected. His team clearly understands TIMING when it comes to making fights.

I really don’t see him facing Bivol again. Not unless Bivol takes a damaging beating but even then, the styles aren’t convenient for him. Nothing to gain there.

I think when he comes back he’ll face Charlo, especially seeing how inactive Charlo has been and seeing how it’s clear he doesn’t have that same hunger. Team Canelo will put off the Benavidez fight but that’s a mistake IMO because Benavidez will only get better and Canelo appears to be on the downhill, but I’m not even sure Canelo beats Benavidez now.

Andrade is a joke. He torpedoed his own career and blames everyone else. I don’t see him getting the Canelo fight because there’s nothing there to gain, and it’s an ugly style for Canelo to go in against.

 

Andrade really screwed up. He reminds me of Amir Con the way he put his career on hold in hopes of landing a big payday with Mayweather or Pacquio. At the end never happened and had to settle for a devestating ko loss to Canelo .

 

Trash comparison.

Khan's resume is 10x better.

 

He did. But to Khan’s credit he at least got in there with some really good competition. Andrade hasn’t even done that.

 

True obviously Khan has a better resume but just thought it was funny there was always rumors of Khan fighting Mayweather. People thought he had a chance because of his handspeed .

 

Khan recently said he’d have beaten Mayweather in his prime… There are people who buy it.

 

I agree Khan has faced a lot of top names but lost to most of them. After his cristal chin got exposed he became more selective with the fights he took as if he was looking to cash out on one last big paycheck. That's what I meant by waiting on Mayweather or Pacquio. Not comparing resume's thats a whole different topic.

 

Clarissa Shields is not a particularly intelligent lady and neither is the woman she is touted to be fighting over here. I pay these broads little to no heed.

Canelo? He's just an arch cherry picker. Always has been. He's worse than Jack Johnson

 

Andrade has fought nobody, and I am maybe one of the few who rates him highly talent-wise, but he's absolutely farted his career away.

For all the deserved shit Khan gets for his flaws, he was a brave bastard who took on, for the most part, the best of his era and gave it a genuine go. He deserves his respect for that imo.

 

Khan honestly thought he could beat anyone and everyone else thought they could beat l Khan. This makes making fights incredibly easy. Zab Judah was absolutely sure he'd spark Khan, as were Devon Alexander and Maidana.

 

Canelo been boring since he beat GGG in the rematch. I still don’t know how he gets 40-50 million per fight from dazn….

Team Canelo have did a good job picking his opponents…till Bivol.

Benevidez needs to get the Mexican fans behind him….needs to get louder calling out Canelo, show up at his events, Vanelo has a twitter acct? Fuk with him there, get into his wife or sister dms

 

Canelo was never exciting.

 

…what I meant was that he hasn’t made a meaningful fight since the 2nd GGG fight.

 

Canelo's not got the output, power or style to be considered an exciting fighter. Also, the fact he has such a good chin means he pretty much is never involved in true back and forth action, either. He's not boring, but he certainly isn't setting the world on fire in his fights.

 

Who gives a fuck. Just let them fight

 

let who fight?

 

So why do you think he's such a ppv attraction if he's supposedly not exciting. I understand we all have our preferences. Some people like fighters with a high output that can't crack an egg like Shakur and Haney. I find that style boring because you know its probably going the distance no matter who they fight. I'm not sure how the heck people can say Canelo has no power after he kod Saunders (broke his orbital) and Plant. Also his fight vs Kirkland was damn exciting and was one of the most brutal knockout ive ever seen as was his ko of Baldomir and Khan. But yeah I get some people are just going to hate on Canelo no matter what.

 

He's a good lucking Mexican with excellent marketing. He inhereted his position when boxing simply didn't have one. He'd fought Mayweather, beat Cotto and was promoted by De La Hoya; so naturally he was gonna get a good push.

I didn't say Canelo was boring, I said he wasn't exciting. I actually like watching him fight, but in more studious, appreciative sense rather than in a nail biting, eagerly waiting for next round, excited way. He's a good technician, and a very precise puncher, but his low volume and lack of intensity as he fights just isn't exciting. It's entertaining, and that's the difference.

Saunders stayed on his feet the whole round and looked far more in pain from the injury than he did in trouble from the punch. It looks like it more a lucky result from a good punch than a feat of power from a brutal shot. Nobody would consider Pac a great puncher at 150, yet he broke Margarito's orbital bone. Saunders has also literally never proven his chin is good. He was broken down and caught clean, and suffered a bad injury from it. He wasn't just one shot at random. Canelo isn't that guy. Both in the cases of Kovalev and Plant, he was breaking them down beforehand. Canelo's always been a good puncher, rather than a could score a KO at any moment puncher. Khan and Baldomir were so much smaller that a clean punch from any at world level middle would've knocked them out. Khan especially.

Kirkland's intensity is what made that fight fun. Kirkland himself was a FAR more exciting fighter than Canelo.

 

Canelo started his career at 147. Obviously I'm not saying hes a little guy like Pacquio. I think his optimal weight based of his height and frame is 160. So for a guy moving up from 147 to 175 and Knocking out Kovalev in my opinion it shows he has power. I'm not sure what you mean by he was breaking him down? It was a pretty uneventful fight up until the ko. Many people thought Kovalev was winning so to say he chopped Kovalev down as a way to win an argument that Canelo does not have enough power to be considered exciting is a bit misleading. Is he a knockout artist? No he's not. Hes more of a counter puncher. He's a thinking fighter but has the ability to turn out the light in any weight class. And to me that makes him exciting.

 

Canelo was 13 or something when he started his career. By 19, he was boiling down to 154. He was never a welterweight. He actually outweighed Kovalev on the night; and Kovalev has both never had a great chin and it had massively deteriorated by the time Canelo got to it. Kovalev was getting pushed back, hot clean more, and from the opening bell, he was fighting on egg shells. Kovalev may have been winning rounds, but he was not on his way to winning. It was clear from the start that he would fall apart at some point.

But it's clear he can't turn the lights out against anybody. He hit Jacobs, Bivol, Smith, GGG, Cotto, etc with his best shots and he landed a lot of them between the group. He didn't particularly come close to taking any of them out.

If you find Canelo genuinely exciting, then power to you, but I find his fights with Saunders, Bivol, Mosley, Plant, Smith, Jacobs, GGG III etc; actually, very boring. I like watching Canelo's skill highlighted in clips from these fights, but watching the whole thing from start to finish is something I can't really see myself ever doing again.

 

If you like watching knockouts then you should watch meaningless fights like Rolly Romero Vs Gervonta Davis. Great back and forth action with a brutal ko at the end. And that goes for any fighters Tank has faced so far. See that's what happens when match makers carefully manuver a fighters career to fight overmatched opponents in other words cherry picks. Canelo has fought top level opposition. His resume speaks for itself. And youre right hes not going to knock out everybody. Some guys at the elite level have solid chins and no matter how hard you try youre not going to ko them. GGG is one of them. I mean who has ko'd GGG? Those are things you should consider before saying Canelo has no power.

And as far as Canelo not really fighting at Welter according to you or being "13"??? Ok couple of things before you go revising history with your nonsense. It's an undisputable fact Canelo started his career at Welter Weight at 15 years old. That is true. But fought from 2005 to 2010(5 years as a welter) on his last fight facing Miguel Cotto's less talented brother. Canelo was a welter weight and yes he was 15 during his pro debut but lots of Mexican fighters go pro at that age. They have to learn on the job. Dont have the luxury of having long amateur backgrounds. So who gives a fuck if he was 15 when he started his career he did start his career at 147 which is what I said. You really have no argument to stand on now do you???

 

I like all boxing, including watching Canelo for his skill. However, I do not find Canelo exciting in any way. He's a slow paced, low intensity fighter who's main goal is to set fights at his own pace. A slow one. I seriously question your taste if Tank vs Rolly is your idea of genuinely exciting. I know it's subjective, but that fight was boring as fuck up until the KO.

Imagine actually accusing someone else of cherry picking, in a thread made, BY YOU, to disparage Canelo for avoiding Benavidez, Charlo and Andrade, when Canelo is the biggest cherry picker in years. I did not once say Canelo has no power; moreover, I actually said "Canelo is a good puncher". Stop putting words in my mouth.

If you think your argument is strong because Canelo started at 15, not 13, them you're an idiot. Canelo was a baby when he was at 147; and never did shit as a welter. He isn't one, and never has been.

As an ADULT, Canelo has always been somewhere between middleweight who cuts and a super middleweight who cuts. He was heavier on the night than GGG and Kovalev, and I'd bet both Plant and Saunders too - although I don't know what they weighed in the ring those nights.

 

A baby? Again he fought at Welter for 5 years from 15 to 20. I dont know how things are in England but over here at 18 youre considered an adult. So let me get this straight 20 year old Canelo was not a real Welter because according to you a 20 year old is a baby so it doesnt count. What a dumbfuck you are .

 

You are absolutely not fully developed at 20, let alone 15. No matter what part of the world you're from.

If you think Canelo is a natural welterweight, you're either a retard or swinging off his cock.

Both, by the looks of it.

 

Read my post again I never said Canelo is a natural Welter I said for a guy that "started" his boxing career to move up to 175 and Ko Kovalev shows he's got power. Keep in mind Canelo is only 5"8 but I do take into account that he's got a stocky frame so I think his natural weight is 160.

Please give me an example of any other Welter or who started at Welter that moved up to 175 or 168 and Ko champions or former champions??? Current fighters.

 

Okay, well in that case how big was Beterbiev at 15? How big was Bivol? Smith? Usyk at 19 was a middleweight. Does that make him more impressive now he's heavyweight champion? No. Of course it doesn't. Weight as a teen-ager means fuck all. You could take it a step further, Canelo was once a fetus yet he moved up and knocked out a light heavyweight. It's completely unimpressive information. Canelo weighs in the low 180s in the ring, sometimes mid 180s, how is that a natural middleweight?

Canelo is not a welter. He never was, so he doesn't fit the ridiculous question either. Furthermore, absolutely none of this has any bearing on whether or not Canelo is exciting. It's just you riding his nuts at any opportunity.

 

I never called Canelo a Cherry picker I said avoiding fights with Charlo, Andrade and Benevidez is not a good look. I'm a Canelo fan but have to call a spade a spade. Him saying he wont fight Mexicans is bullshit. As a fan I want Canelo to fight Charlo or Benevidez because I believe he can win. And as far as you calling Canelo the biggest cherry picker??? That's your opinion and are entitled to have one. Just like you can believe the sky is red and moon is blue or that Canelo was never a welter even though he made the weight for 5 years. But it doesnt make it true. Leave you with these facts about Canelo supposedly cherry picking for years

 

You called Tank a cherry picker. I was pointing out the hypocrisy of that. Canelo was never a welterweight. He was a child. There's a difference. If you've outgrown a weight by the time your 20, it was never your weight.

That is a list of cherry picked opponents; washed up, smaller/weight drained, handpicked opponents.

 

Best resume in boxing. Name one active fighter other than Pacquio that has a better resume? I dont want to know your opinion or feelings. See thats the difference i hit you with facts you hit me with opinions." Canelo is a cherry picker" "Canelo was never a welter". If you say a lie enough times you start believing it.