The Ali that beat cooper in 63 vs. The Holmes that beat Norton in 78

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  1. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

    Who wins?
     
  2. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    Holmes.....
     
  3. Double L

    Double L Book Reader

  4. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Wrong section, Mr. Admin.
     
  5. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

    Yeah I know, but what the hell
     
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  6. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    Holmes could have beaten that Ali. He had Liston's jab with way more movement and variety. Ali then was faster, sure, but he'd have to be cos he didn't have his man strength yet. It's a hard fight but I think Holmes can edge it.
     
  7. Roll With The Punches

    Roll With The Punches WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    well if Dog Jones could do it...
     
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  8. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    Doug Jones :Jest:
     
  9. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Ali just performed in big moments in a way Holmes wasn't capable of. Knowing that fact, I would take even a pre-prime Ali to raise his game and outpoint Larry.
     
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  10. Dog Jones

    Dog Jones WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Godfather :Facepalm:
     
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  11. puerto rock

    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Gotta go with Ali. At his best, he just knew how to seize the moments and rise up to a level the opponent couldn’t match.

    Ali via clear UD.
     
  12. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

    Do you think that was Ali’s prime ?
     
  13. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    This.

    The difference between this Ali and the one who schooled Liston is nothing more than drive. He'd have the drive to raise his game just as he did Liston, and he'd beat Holmes IMO.
     
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  14. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

    Any Version of Pre-Exile Ali > Any Version of Larry Holmes...




    REED:Dan1:
     
  15. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker


    You're being too generous to Holmes.

    Even the Rumble in the Jungle Ali beats the best Holmes.
     
  16. Azazel

    Azazel "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Not sure about this... No way Holmes fall for the rope a dope and he'd be quicker than this version of Ali with a much sharper jab. He'd be a slight favorite imo.
     
  17. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

    Doug Jones DIDN'T Win That Bout Roboto...The Media "Outrage" Over the Verdict is Actually STRANGE AF When You Take the Time to WATCH the Fight, Which You Clearly HAVEN'T...




    REED:duck:
     
  18. Roll With The Punches

    Roll With The Punches WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ


    duh
     
  19. timmothysmith01

    timmothysmith01 Leap-Amateur

    Holmes would have outdone Ali.
     
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