Alright we have an interesting match up right here. No doubt Cruz will put on a better showing against Shakur then Valdez. This should be a good test for Shakur. WBC Orders Shakur Stevenson Vs. Isaac Cruz For Final 135-lb Eliminator - Boxing News 24
They can order it all they want. Cruz is PBC. This shit ain't happening. In the unlikely event it does happen, Shakur would 12-0 Cruz.
My prediction is that we're gonna see Davis-Cruz II in the spring. We all know damn well Davis-Garcia ain't happening. I'm not sure who Shakur will face next, but fingers crossed we see Haney-Loma and the winner fights Shakur.
Guess it might not happen after all... Bob Arum Says Isaac Cruz Doesn't Want Shakur Stevenson Fight, Doubts It Happens - Boxing News 24
we know damn well haymon isnt in the business of putting his guy in as a b side against a rival promoters fighter who will win easily
Skakur Stevenson AIN'T Losing to a Face 1st Midget, Sorry...He'd Have Beaten the BRAKES Off Isaac Cruz and a "Segment" of Boxing Fans Would Bitch About Him Being BORING, Afterwards... Even Though Shakur Would Be Right In FRONT Of Cruz the Entire Time, Administering a Certified PAINT JOB On Him...Tank Davis is BIGGER In Size Than Cruz and Shakur is a LOT BIGGER Than Tank is... LAME Motherfuckers Like Doub Would Call Shakur a "Weight Bully", in Hindsight... REED
i guess you could count that. although wilders team enforced the rematch clause to squeeze out that payday
I wouldn't call Shakur boring but he's not what I would consider exciting either. What I find interesting about Shakur is seeing how he will adapt to bigger guys, guys with more power or more speed. Will his lack of power hurt him or will he adapt and rise to the ocassion.
Exactly since when do they listen to them. Doubt pitbull fights Shakur. As a pitbull fan i dont like it. Shakur will make it an ugly fight.
Don't compare Cruz to little Valdez. Valdez was already exposed as a no defense having face first slugger. Just got a lucky punch on Berchelt. So in hindsight Shakur beating Valdez means nothing. Pitbull is not Valdez. Having said that I dont want to see shakur running from pitbull for 12rds. I want to see action fights so maybe pitbull vs Loma's last opponent would be a better fight.
You don't want Pitbull beat up and made to look like the ordinary fighter he is, that's why you don't wanna see it.
At 135 lb I don't think Shakur has the power to "beat up" anyone. If your definition of beating up is prancing around like a fag for 12 rds and bitch slapping someone as hard as he can without actually doing any damage(no knockdown, kos, dazzing) then yeah your'e right I don't want to see that.
He sure didn't prance around when he beat the dog shit outta Valdez 12-0. The same thing would happen to Cruz, a lesser skilled fighter than Valdez. Cruz got outboxed by one handed Davis. Even with two good hands Davis is an inferior technician to Stevenson. Shakur don't need to run from that bum, cause Cruz doesn't have the skill and nuance to handle basic angles and strong ring generalship. Why would Shakur need to run?
First of all Shakur has never fought at 135 he's been a weight bully at 130 feasting on midgets. Fighting at 135 or 140 once he cant starve himself to make weight is a different story. If Tank Davis who has serious power couldnt hurt pitbull what makes you think Shakur can hurt him? Pitbull will walk right through those bitch slaps. He wont respect his power and just come forward. And Shakur will turn it into a 5k marathon. No thanks dont want to see that.
Shakur Doesn't Register KO's, But it's NOT for a Lack of TRYING...He's Got an Active Workrate and DESPITE the Low KO%, It's Not as if Guys Walk Shakur Down All Fight.... REED
Uuuuuh, Have You SEEN Shakur Fight????...He DOESN'T "Run"... He Relies On Head/Upper Body Movement/Parrying Considerably MORE Than he Does His LEGS for Defensive Purposes... You Don't Want to See Shakur "Running" from Cruz for 12 Rounds???...Don't Worry, You WOULDN'T...Cause Shakur Damn Sure WOULDN'T...A Face 1st, T-Rex Armed MIDGET Has a 0% Chance of Beating Shakur Stevenson...Sorry... REED
Tank HURT His Power Hand in the Cruz Fight...Barely Threw the Left Hand @ All After a Certain Point... Look, REED Gets It, Isaac Cruz is the Flavor of the Month for Mexican Fight Fans, But Shakur Stevenson Categorically WOULD NOT Run from Him AND He'd Beat the Brakes Off Cruz...10-2 BEST Case Scenario for Cruz, but 12-0 is Likely... You Motherfuckers are LAME w/That "He Ran" Shit, Even When a Fighter Stood FLAT FOOTED the Entire Time, as Shakur Typically Does..."He Never Hurt Me", Yet the Motherfucker Connected AT WILL To Your Head/Body EVERYfuckingTIME He Threw... Ridiculous... REED
Yet When Canelo's SPURT Fighting Ass Throws 15 Punches in a Round, Mexican Fight Fans Act Like it's the GREATEST Shit Since Tortillas... REED
You made me lmao with that tortilla joke. Ill give you that. Look I'm not saying Pitbull beats Shakur. I have no doubt Pitbull he gets schooled by Shakur. I recognize his limitations. That's exactly what I said on my initial post that I feel Shakur is the WRONG STYLE for Pitbull. Please show me where I said he beats Shakur? As a fan I would rather see an all action fight. I think the guy that fought loma gives Pitbull a more exciting fight that fans would want to see. I know Shakur will cruise to an easy and boring decision if he ever fights Pitbull. Just not a fight I'm interested in seeing. Jesus Christ is that ok with you. You and Explosive have Shakur's cock so far down your throat you can't read correctly. Lol
I had Davis-Cruz a draw; and Davis only had a bad had for the last few rounds. Cruz is a good fighter, with a good chin and a fun style. Stevenson is definitely a level above, but Cruz is absolutely not the scrub he's being made out to be. Cruz is definitely a much, much better fighter than somebody like Kambosos; although not as good as Valdez or Robson. That being said, I don't think he'll be all too competitive with Stevenson; after all, X is right. Stevenson is a much better technician than Davis and Cruz is not better than Valdez, who Stevenson neutralised with laughable ease given the gravity of the match-up. I see no reason for Cruz to do much better, if at all. However, this would be a good test for a few reasons. It'd let us all see how Stevenson handles a lack of a weight advantage; how he handles heavier guys power and strength, and if he can remain composed against bigger guys. Plus, I prefer when guys move up and fight a couple of contenders before immediately skipping the cue for a title shot. Stevenson vs Cruz is a good fight to make. I'd rather see this next, then Loma mid next year, then see him fight for the title against whoever holds most of it by then. Damn fucking shame it's not gonna happen IMO. Stevenson is a very talented fighter, and there's a lot of great fights at lightweight which just aren't gonna happen.
I would LOVE to see Shakur vs Cruz next. But we all know it ain't happening. And yes, it's because Haymon ain't gonna sacrifice Cruz to a TR fighter; at least not right now when Cruz is at the peak of his marketability.
