Fights where a rematch would have changed the result

Name some fights where you believe that a quick rematch would have changed the outcome.

For example:

Oscar would have beaten Tito, and gotten the nod, in s rematch.

 

Oscar would have gotten fucked up in a rematch, which is why he ducked it. Tito wanted it. Imagine that? The winning fighter wanted one. The loser didn't.

What would have Oscar have improved on?

 

Oscar didn't have to change much, cos Tito wasn't able to change his approach either. Keep the movement, keep the jab at Tito's grill, don't give away rounds.

That added to the fact that the judges would have probably favored him because of the events of the first bout, and I believe Oscar would have won.

 

I think Oscar wins the rematch if it's at 147.

 

Yeah I think Oscar would have won the rematch as well.

 

Foreman vs. Jimmy Young II in an indoor, air conditioned venue

 

It depends. If I remember correctly Tito moved up to 154 and beat Reid and Vargas. Tito could no longer make 147 he seemed drained and lethargic vs DLH at 147. Had a rematch taken place at 147 Oscar would've fucked him up. If the fight took place at 154 or 160 Tito stops De La Hoya. Tito was smart to run up to 154.

 

Tyson Douglas

 

Hagler-Leonard.

 

Tyson-Douglas 2. Douglas would have trained on donuts and burgers and gotten flattened quickly.

I don’t know about Trinidad-De La Hoya. I scored a close one for Oscar, but Oscar admittedly was fatigued and said his legs were shaking in the late rounds. A rematch would have been at a higher weight, which favors Tito

 

Yep, the Line of Demarcation is WEIGHT...

DeLa Wins a RE @ '47, Trinidad STOPS DeLa Late or Forces Him to Finish a RE as He Did the 1st Bout, @ '54...



REED

 

agREED...

Hagler Would Be PISSED & Wouldn't Waste Rounds Trying to Be CUTE...He'd Have Beaten the SHIT Out of Sugar Ray in a RE...




REED

 

agREED...

Tyson Would've Disposed of Douglas QUICKER Than Holyfield Did...




REED

 

Tyson-Douglas 2 is an interesting one because Tyson was obviously below par, but Buster was absolutely immaculate for that one night, and was never even close to that level before or since. Was it lightning in a bottle or would he get into the same shape mentally and physically for a rematch if it was Tyson? If it is the exact same Douglas from Tokyo against a prepared Tyson does he still pose problems for Mike? It's so hard to say because we literally only have one fight to go off.

 

Even a SHITTY, Completely UNPREPARED Tyson, Laying Up w/Geisha Girls During his Time in Tokyo, CONDOM Applied to His Swollen Eye in Lieu of End Swell, Managed to DROP Douglas on Fight Night...

Buster Was BEYOND Himself That Night - Mom Died, Wife Filed for Divorce, Everyone Telling Him He's Going to Get KILLED, etc. Yes, it was a "Lightning in a Bottle" Moment if EVER There Was One....Whereas Mike was Like "I'm Fighting a Guy Named 'BUSTER'? "...

The WAY Douglas Basically Laid Down vs. Holyfield In His Very Next Fight Says it ALL...That Was the REAL Buster Douglas...In an IMMEDIATE RE, Tyson Likely Stops Douglas in 1 Round, 2 Max....Holy Got Him In 3 if REED's Not Mistaken...



REED

 

I don't see why he would get in better shape in a Tyson rematch than he did with Holyfield. He won the lottery.

When i say he won the lottery i don't mean it was a total fluke. He fought a great fight and fully deserved the win. I just don't see the stars aligning quite like that again.

 

hilarious part is Sega made "Buster Douglas" video game, not realizing Douglas was gonna lose his next fight

 

I was going to mention the sega video game. I was a child when Mike lost. I remember crying but even back then at a young age knowing Buster Douglas was a bum and not wanting anything to do with that videogame. Lol

 

I thought that was only available on the Genesis, but apparently Sega made a Master System version too. Seems to be rare (for good reason )

No idea how accurate these prices are but it appears they're going for some good money if complete.

James Buster Douglas Knockout Boxing Prices Sega Master System | Compare Loose, CIB & New Prices

 

I have very little doubt Trinidad would have beaten Oscar in a rematch, especially at 154.

 

I had NES but I rented Genesis a couple times so I could play the Holyfield game. It was fun, but got so easy. You would just throw the Tyson combo over and over again. Hook to the body and uppercut to the head. If the guy had a great chin, you could spend the whole round just throwing those 2 punches over and over again.

 

Vitaly Byrd

 

Tito was planning to move up in weight back in 1997 but the Norris fight fell through.

Agree that Trinidad beats De La Hoya. The difference between the two is that Oscar fades late. Tito would have gotten untracked sooner this time. Oscar fighting the way he fought Vargas getting hit that much that cleanly imo doesn’t bode well for him against Trinidad.

 

Oscar fought the best he ever had for the first 9 rounds of the Trinidad fight. He wasn't gonna duplicate that in a rematch, regardless of the weight.

He's not a fighter who could really elevate his game.

Leonard, Ali, Robinson, here you're talking about guys who had extra gears they could kick into.

Oscar just wasn't good enough to do that.

 

Lennox Lewis rematching Vitali Klistchko would have been a different result and Lewis knew it.

 

Not necessarily. Lennox at that point in his career just didn't wanna take fights that were that challenging and no matter what he knew a Klitschko rematch would be a very tough fight again...

 

This makes no sense. Lewis wasn't scared of Vitali. He just had nothing to fight for anymore. Post-2000, all Lewis wanted to do was beat Tyson. Once that was accomplished, he was just going through the motions.

What did he have to fear from a man whose face he just ripped off?

Why on Earth do you feel a rematch would have favored Vitali when he couldn't even beat a fat Lewis?

If Lewis really wanted to train hard and get back into peak shape one last time, he would have smashed Vitali in a rematch. He just felt no motivation to do so.

Neither Klit sister was on Lewis' level.

 

I didn't say that he was scared. What I meant to say was that he knew that he's not the same fighter he once was and Vitali would most definitely give him another hard fight, win or lose. Lewis played it safe and avoided taking anymore punishment by retiring and I don't blame him for that. I don't think it's unrealistic to say that Vitali could have potentially beaten Lewis had they fought again since he was ahead on the scorecard by the time of the stoppage. I think Vitali could have made some adjustments and perhaps fought more intelligently in the rematch, but we will never know.

I agree that wasn't a prime Lewis that fought Vitali and I would pick Lewis to demolish him at his very best. Still would have liked to have seen Lewis fight Wladimir out of curiosity.

 

Lewis really had nothing else to prove at that point. I think it's a testament to his greatness how he still managed to pull off a big win over Vitali despite being unmotivated and losing on the scorecards.

 

Im not so sure.

Vitali had the style to be problematic I agree, but he only did as well as he did because Lewis by that point was far, unmotivated, and was preparing for Kirk Johnson before. Vitali was a late replacement.

Lewis would have been much better that night if Vitali was his opponent from the get go, I think. When Lewis viewed someone as a threat, he would usually go to another level. A level I can’t see Vitali reaching.

Lewis at his best stops Vitali late after giving him a beat down IMO.