Name some weird calls by the refs that haven't been obviously corrupt but rather difficult to explain. Also, comment on these: Marty Denkin's ruling in Mayorga vs Forrest I (at 2:09) has always puzzled me. Forrest is clubbed down and gets up. Denkin holds up both his index fingers, holds them wide apart, waves them and stops the fight. What was Forrest supposed to do there? How were his eyes supposed to look. Another example: Brewster vs Krasniqi. Brewster knocks Luan down, the ref counts to eight, waits for Krasniqi to get up and let's the bout continue. I believe the latter was more of a case of a brain fart than corruption. The first wasn't necessarily even a bad ruling but a fucking weird one.
Yeah, this was a clear case of corruption, but UGTBK always refused to see corruption in german boxing, for some weird reasons
I have never denied corruption in boxing, in Germany nor anywhere else. Shit, the fact that Krasniqi evrn fought for a title is a sign of corrupt construction. It's just that every day life tells us that in single situations brain farts and fuck-ups are much more common than bribery. Just look how often the best basketball players miss easy shots or football players pass straight to the opponent. How would senile referees with fraction of that talent and practice be different? It is totally possible that the ref was bought, the promoter nor WBO were above it. It would just be a very stupid way to fix the fight that was televised all over the world. He could have claimed a bogus foul and given Krasniqi a five-minute rest, he could have given a slow count, he could have warned the corner for something etc. You don't stop the count for no reason even if you are on the take. Thus, even if he was bribed, it would still be some weird-ass refereeing
Your argument is flawed, cause it implies that they planned to fix the fight in this exact way. In reality, ref doesn't know in advance how a fight will go, and if he's on the take, he pretty much has to improvise on the spot. In that particular situation, he probably tought Krasniqi would have beaten the count easily (he was on his knees when he started counting) and panicked when he realised that it wouldnt be the case, so acted like a total idiot. The ref in the disgusting coggi fight also could have made his corruption a million time less obvious, yet.....
The ref apparently mixed up the 20 count for boxers who are knocked out of the ring and the 5 minute limit for low blows. But Norwood ended up beating the 20 count anyway and it was ruled a KO. Gainer got the deserved win, only it was in the weirdest fashion. Norwood should have been DQ’d well before that. That was my edit BTW. Someone saved and re-uploaded it. Fucking Don King Promotions had my channels taken down for copyright infringement.
That ref seemed like he lost control of the entire fight since it so rough to deal with. He just didn’t know what he was doing at that point.
No doubt imo, really shameful. I do understand the logic behind UGTBK thinking (not in this case though, the ref was clearly and quite obviously helping Krasniqi as much as he could bar hitting Brewster with a steel chair on the back of the head), but as the bad calls overwhelmingly favor the local/name fighters, it brush far too rosy a picture to simply pass it off as incompetence.
As you mentioned, the worst part is that Norwood did beat the 20 count . Simply awful through and through
Ali Liston II is probably the most famous example of a ref fumbling the ball big time. Was Jersey Joe already punch drunk/senile at the time ??
Wayne Kelly counting to 10 over a prone Mundine in the Ottke fight was beyond silly. Usually it's one of my pet peeve when a referee stops a fight without giving the down fighter a count but in this case, it was obvious Mundine was out cold as he wasn't even blinking. I know they were talks that Kelly did it on purpose to get back at Mundine for his take on 9/11. If so, add him to the long list of idiots, megalomaniacals and incompetents of the boxing world.
Forgot which fight it was but the ref threatening to dq Augustus because he was ''dancing'' was mindboggling.
