I admit I overrated Spence in his prime

Bud would beat the ever living shit out of a man who got outboxed by Tony Harrison. Easy work.

 

yeah I still want to see it. I think it will do better PPV numbers than Bud v Spence. Charlo running his mouth…Bud with his recently acquired fanbase(on social media the greatest fighter since SRL/DLH/Pacquiao/Mayweather, the animosity they seem to have for each other…great built up.

 

I agree that was a slaughter. I think you or Reed said it best. Bud has the ability to switch to another gear.

 

Agreed except about Hamed. I think he was physically declining by the time Barrera got to him and I don’t think his heart was into the sport anymore.

I do see your point about Spence. We can’t take away from Bud’s victory but I guess it is a legit question if Errol was that far gone or was Bud just that good. I think it’s a little bit of both.

Errol was probably not peak like in 2017-2018 but he also never met anyone with the exceptional ability of Crawford. The punches from Bud were coming with speed and timing that Spence had never seen before. So it’s also possible that Bud takes him out anyway had it taken place pre-accident.

Errol should be steered clear of a rematch with Bud. He should move up and see what he has left first. If he can rebuild himself and win a title at 154, then I guess look for a rematch and cash out. But he shouldn’t go in there this December with Bud.

 

Spence pounding cheeseburgers the evening before the fight

 

I don't think he wants a rematch. When asked if he wanted the rematch he said yes because that's what he's supposed to say. Just like Canelo said he wanted a rematch with Bivol then turns around and fights English scrub and little Charlo.

 

Crawford was excellent but what happens if that was ennis in the ring with that version of spence? I doubt spence would've lasted 5 rounds

 

I don't think Spence could handle Boots' speed and power at this point.

However, that doesn't automatically mean that Boots beats Bud. We don't know what kind of chin Boots has, and we don't know how he would deal with a technician the caliber of Bud.

We won't find out though. Bud knows damn well that Charlo is a lesser fighter than Boots, and bigger money.

 

I think he'll activate the rematch. We'll find out for sure though, in less than a month.

 

Bud isn't responsible for Spence's bad habits. Supposedly he always had these bad habits.

 

He didn't have to kick into 2nd gear. His 1st gear overwhelmed Spence.

I THOUGHT he would have to use his second gear. My thought going in was that it would be close through 6, then Bud would kick it into another level and take over. But there was no need.

 

Agree…not taking anything away from Bud he put up the best welterweight performance in years…maybe decades. He dominated Spence, Garcia, Ugas couldn’t win rounds against the same Spence.

This is the first time in a long time that I felt sorry for a fighter. Spence is a cool dude, soft spoken and like that douche Victor Ortiz said “I don’t deserve to get punished like this” or something along those lines. Spence took wayy too much punishment for such a cool guy.

 

You can dimish ANY great performance.

Jones-Toney: You can say JT was drained. Same with Mayweather-Corrales.

Hopkins-Trinidad: You can say Tito was too small.

Sanchez-Gomez: You can say that Gomez underestimated Sanchez and wasn't great above 122.

Ali-Liston: You can say Liston was faded.

Let it go. Just give Bud his props.

 

Boots would’ve ended it earlier….

should Boots follow Bud to 154? Without Bud/Spence welterweight is a dead division, the guys at 140 ain’t moving up anytime soon. Boots is a big dude making 147 can’t be easy…

 

No, Boots should stay and clean out 147.

It's not about the weight. Bud sees Boots as high risk, low reward. In fact, I'll even go a step further... I suspect that Bud sees a lot of himself in Boots. He's a student of the game.

Don't get it twisted, that does NOT mean I think Bud is scared of Boots. I don't think he fears anyone.

What I'm saying is, he knows that Boots is a legit talent, and a no-name in the mainstream. The very definition of high risk/low reward.

Bud also knows that Charlo is fuckin garbage, and would be big money and an easy win.

 

if Boots stays at 147 he needs to be quick collecting those straps…4-5 fights in 12-15 months. Clean out the division get all the straps move in quickly bevause these assholes Garcia(is he retire?), goofy Thurman will immediately move to pick up a strap and hold it hostage…
In late 2023/early2025 Bud would’ve handle Charlo maybe Tsyzu real UNDISPUTED vs UNDISPUTED…

 

Agreed if you compare their resumes at 147 Spence at least on paper had the better resume. But the way he looked against Ugas and Porter made me realize it was going to be a long night for Spence...or rather a short night .

 

Danny and Thurman are both finished. The days of them picking up belts are long gone. They would get fucked up by fringe contenders at this stage.

My guess is that we never see Bud vs Boots.

I could see Boots vs Tim Tszyu though.

 

Can't overlook Ortiz. I'm not sure he's gonna lay down for Boots. Boots hasn't fought anyone yet.

 

Boots would annihilate Vergil Ortiz. Vergil ain't all that good. He's more hype than quality.

 

it’s boxing these alphabets will make Garcia/Thurman vs a bum just to get a few more fees…


Never see Boots vs Bud….no no no

 

Im calling it now…Boots by KO inside of 5….

 

I don't know which round, but I know Verg ain't going the distance. He's too slow for Boots, his defense is shit, and he doesn't appear to be great in the chin department. What does he have over Ennis? Not even power, Ennis is a bigger puncher.

 

Let's be real Crawford is not fighting Boots. High risk low reward. And YES Boots is a clear favorite vs Ortiz. Having said that if they fight Ortiz would be a big step up from his previous opponents. A fight I would pay money to see if Boots can't get Crawford.

 

Bro we don't even know if Vergil still has a career. He appears to be a sickly dude. Those health issues take a physical toll on a boxer that may be irreversible.

While Boots has no health issues, lives a clean life, and stays in the gym.

 

Most important….if he stay that way we might be talking about him as one of the greats…

 

I like boots, but he might be getting overrated here. He has fought absolutely no one

 

He's got a long way to go before he's discussed as a great. He's a great talent for sure.

 

Obviously it wasn't the greatest achievement ever, beating Hearns or Gomez is always going to be greater than this.

And as I already said, Bud isn't physically a formidable guy, so he won't create the wow-factor Jones or Pac did.

But from technical and tactical standpoint, what could Bud have done better? And name examples of some fights where a guy has dominated as highly ranked opponent much more thoroughly (since it is laughable to hail this bout among the best performances)

 

All I said is that he wipes out Ortiz, and is high risk for Crawford. Neither of those statements are overrating him.