Fight Revisit:::: Roy Jones Jr vs Anthony Pettis

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  1. Boxingfan25

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    Is that a real question. Even his most devoted fans wouldn't dare say Canelo was greater than Roy. Truth be told 60% of Mexican hard core and casual boxing fans can't stand Canelo and think he's a fraud. The other 40 percent see him for what he is a very good borderline great fighter that belongs to be mentioned among the elite Mexican boxers but is somewhat overrated due to his good matchmaking. And his personality is awful. He doesn't do himself any favors when he talks. Like when he refuses to fight Mexicans or fight guys with "boring styles" like Andrade. Not a good look for a champion to publicly admit he flat out refuses to fight some guys. I mean in my days champions took on all comers. That was bad ass like Tyson. Sure it happens where ducking goes on. But at least have a little shame don't hurt your image by saying it publicly. That's my gripe with Canelo.
     
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    In the Lamont Peterson vs Amir Khan rematch in 2012 both tested dirty for steroids and there was even talks of cancellation of the fight. So much for your lame RJ defense.
     
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    It's Not STRANGE to You That a Commission That HADN'T Held a Major Fight in 25 Years Decided to Be the 1st to Implement PED Testing???...Of Course it's STRANGE to You, You're Just In DEFENSE Mode, Pathetically Trying to PROTECT Your Heto's Name...

    Again, Outside of RJ Haters, East Side Boxing Writers and YOU, There's NO ONE Demanding Roy "Clear His Name"....

    You Post a Letter from the IBF, But Where's the FOLLOW UP Letter, Inquiring as to WHY Roy HASN'T Provided a B-Sample???...Where's the IBF Letter Threatening to STRIP Roy???...You're MAKING REED's Point FOR Him...NO ONE Gave a Fuck About a Failed Drug Test from BOTH Combatants, in a Commission Not Equipped/Prepared to Host a Major Fight...

    If the IBF Felt the Matter Was THAT Important, They'd Have PRESSED the Fucking Issue, Don't You Think???....





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    REED Knew the Queen Bee of CLENelo Dick Riders Would Rear HER Ugly Head Eventually...Bringing a Butterknife to a Gunfight...

    1. Lamont Peterson and Amir Khan NEVER Had a RE
    2. Peterson Tested Positive for a PED PRIOR to the Proposed RE w/Khan, Which Never Happened
    3. Khan's Only Failed PED Test Came Over a DECADE After the Peterson Bout, Post-Kell Brook

    So Much for YOUR LAME Ass Attempt @ Getting in GROWN Folks Boxing Business...Henceforth, Please KEEP Your Trolling, Boxing IGNORANT Ass Where You Belong, on the Fucking SIDELINES...

    So Yeah, Still Waiting....


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    Boxing is so corrupt that when boxing super stars like Roy Jones, Shane Mosley, Erik Morales, Pacquio tested positive for steroids was easily swept under the rug. Even when caught redhanded they circumvent the punisment. A good example of this is Lamont Peterson who tested positive for steroids in Nevada and wasn't allowed to fight so he defended his title against Holt in his home town of DC instead... while pending an investigation by the Nevada State Commission.

    Roid is a steroid cheat no question about it and so is Holyfield but because of their great talent people turn a blind eye. You have enablers in every sport covering and minimizing their illegal behavior. Kobe raped that woman at the resort but because he was a famous well loved athlete nobody could believe he did it and eventually got away with it. Boxing is no different. We have nuttswingers covering for their idols all the time.
     
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    Why? So we can assume he blew all his money? On what, gambling?
     
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    Roy had a lot of children maybe back child support.
     
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    he lost a shit load of money in that record label he had
     
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    They all take steroids.

    Also having super tiny trace amounts of tren or clen would never show up in athletic commission tests. Things like LH, epi/t ratios etc which are better indicators of cheating were also likely way elevated (or surpressed). I worked with someone who helped develop some tests working out of Nevada he said false positives are way less than 1% but the athletes have their excuses before they ever potentially fail to have plausible deniability. (Think Jon Jones dick pills).

    Close to a zero percent chance either roy or canelo were clean. I bet Roy is now though :)

    Btw Roy got robbed vs Pettis I thought he won easy.
     
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    Screw it, I can roll with that assessment. I'm just not a fan of hypocrisy.

    "I love this fighter, thus, he would never cheat."

    "I hate this fighter, he is 100% a cheater."
     
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    When you say all, do you mean the vast majority or something like 99.5% with maybe the odd unicorn?

    Further to that is it known illegal substances/treatments or things that have yet to be banned but are currently allowed?
     
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    Not me! But alot of members here (or should I see ex members) know my name.

    That was Mike Dave who I did meet.

    This is jaws brother. Part of the old free ike, matchup analyzer, steve_dave crew.

    Sorry I missed your last post too godfather! What's new??
     
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    I’m old man. Memory gone. How is your brother ? Get him to come back
     
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    In my experience nearly all of the high level mma fighters / boxers I have ever been around used some version of testosterone and they nearly all played dumb and only admitted it second hand (I found out from others they did it, then they would go oh yeah I do some testosterone but not steroids lol)

    When theraputic exemptions were allowed it was extremely common and discussed and is now back to hush hush.

    Similarly I ended up working in golf which I picked up in my mid/late 20s and a vast majority of the professionals use beta blockers / stimulants but it is nearly never mentioned and the general public / fanbase is seemingly unaware.
     
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    He aint coming back until you replace the hubcaps you stole off his car.
     
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    Nice knowing you jaws
     
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    I hope not after the amount i spent for the price of a cup of coffee per day. That television commercial really moved me.
     
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    Sadly he is not. He's probably tipping the scales at 240+.
     
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    My donations were supposed go to nourishment, not obesity. :mad:
     
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    He hasn't been watching boxing since GGG-Canelo. I've lost touch with a few of the old crew. Still occasionally talk with free ike and recommended he come back.

    Matchup_analyzer, steve_dave, eaner, Rubio mhs, free ike, jaws feel like there was one more.
     
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    Beta blocker? what the hell do beta blockers do for golfers exactly ?lol...they must have been pulling your leg. Beta blockers like atenollol were used to treat hypertension and tachycardia. It's an old people pill. I think you're thinking of nitro or Cialis the yellow pill for ED. It's supposed to help not only give you a hard on but get you pumped and raise your testosterone levels. Lots of body builders use it.
     
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    Shooters use beta blockers too. The point is to make you feel calm and stop hands from shaking. I'd assume golfers try the same
     
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    Is he still with that one girl ?
     
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