Who is the middleweight GOAT: Monzon or Hagler?

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  1. Xplosive

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    Simple question.
     
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    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Hagler was better, but Monzon greater. Yes hes was going up in age, but losing to an inactive leonard hurt hagler standing imo.
     
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    Neither could handle Stephane Ouellet
     
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    Hagler was the man and I prefer him over Monzon but it’s a no brainer for me. Monzon was the better MW and had the greater resume between the two.
     
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    Yeah, I could never envision Monzon blowing the Leonard fight.

    Leonard's mind games really got to Hagler.

    Wouldn't work on Monzon because he was a sociopath. Good luck trying to disturb the emotions of a man without emotion.
     
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    Hagler never threw his wife off a building so he's greater by default
     
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    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Monzon was full of émotion. You dont strangle your wife and throw her off a balcony if your not consummed by anger and jealousy
     
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    Depends on the wife.
     
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    The point stands I think Monzon was too "cold" to fall for Leonard's mind games.

    Not saying Marvin was a mental midget or anything. Of course he wasn't. But he let Ray get him in a way that I don't think would have worked on Monzon.
     
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    I do agree that I dont think Monzon would have been affected as Hagler was.
     
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    I'd argue neither are. I'd see arguments for both Greb and Robinson above them both.

    Between the two however, I'd say Hagler was better Monzon was greater.
     
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