SEE YOU! A brand spanking new modern fitba thread 2024/2025

Alcohol is a hell of a drug.

 

Player power is massive now. When they lined out for Ireland they did it to advertise themselves at club level and ultimately develop their talent. It paid dividends.

Grealish, who couldn't spell his own name, got a 300k a week deal at city and rice, who is ordinary, got a £100m across town so in their mind it paid off.

 

Is Kane a legend?

 

Some sort of Dionysiac legend... King Kane, cursed by the wrathful Gods for his lazy pressing, for whom all the silver he laid eyes upon turn to dust

 

I guess you'd have to say Kane is up in the conversation with Lineker & Shearer? I feel like its maybe a bit easier for a top striker to stat pad his goal record these days tho

 

He's a very good footballer. But he's not legendary and a critical analysis of his England performances would explain why.

The missed chance to make it 2-0 Vs Croatia in 2018 and the missed penalty Vs France in 2022 are serious knocks against him.

Top 10 England striker? Yes, easily. Handily. But Hurst is a legend. Kane is not.

 

Agreed. Some people only look at stats and make conclusions without any context. He'd have to do more to be considered among those I would think.

 

Ireland deliberately lost to Greece with the same score against England to take shine away from their victory.

 

I think he has to win something, one major competition at the very least, to be in any kind of consideration. Look at it this way, he could potentially have a Premier League, Champions League and two Euros under his belt, but instead he finished second in all of them. Not to mention going to Bayern, who had won 11 Bundesliga titles in a row, and finishing 3rd. I know football is a team sport and it's not all down to him, but at the same time it has to count against him. There's no denying his ability though.

 

Agreed

 

Luck is a thing but you start to wonder if its a coincidence he's never won anything. His shooting/finishing is out of this planet but how does his overall contribution net out? To the eye he always seems to be ambling around like a fat Sunday league player

 

Yeah it's not like he's never scored in important games largely he's not been a factor, with goals or otherwise. One would expect more impact when it really matters. Scoring hattricks against overmatched opposition is nice but nothing special.

 

It does feel like Kane is cursed. No trophies still, yet could have a handful. All-time record goalscorer for both Spurs and England. That alone, for many, classes him as a legend. But I do think he needs to win a major trophy to be considered one.

 

Another wee nugget like that: i was reading the tipster section of the metro last week. Whos gonna score first, who to bet on? He says Kane is favourite but don't bet on him - only 1 of his last 10 goals for England have been the first goal. That numbers made up from memory but it was some really low proportion. First goals tend to be important. It feels like alot of his are the 3rd in a 4-0 win. Maybe a bit unfair, but feels that way

 

ITS A CELTIC SATURDAY!

 

Haaland one goal away from a hat trick of hat tricks.

 

Fucking hell, QPR are not good for your blood pressure. Concede a late goal then get an equaliser with the last kick of the game.

 

Unless Pep tells everyone he's on his way, or those charges end up in points and titles docked, hard to see why bookies wouldn't pay out on City becoming champions again, Liverpool and Arsenal already dropping the points they couldn't afford to drop

 

It's annoying because Arsenal are literally just missing a proven goalscorer to really have a proper go, but you're probably right. City just look unstoppable at the moment, they have that fear factor over other teams, who will just roll over for them and let them tally up points.

It's just so difficult to compete with them, when you have the money to build essentially two Premier League-winning XI's in one squad what the fuck are you actually meant to do? Liverpool had to set an absurd record to win their one and set an unmatchable pace.

The bar is ridiculously high and it's all down to financial doping.

 

Celtic FINALLY getting the job done in a winnable game in Europe....

 

Cracking win for Celtic. Finally capitalising on the presentation of a game there for the winning, opposition be damned.

 

We're a much more cohesive team than this time last season and we were so close in the home games vs lazio & athletico. Obviously bratislsva are shit at this level but some reasons for optimism that we might be pretty competitive this season. Dortmund away next!

 

Dortmund beat FC Bugger. In Bugger. They'll be a totally different proposition, naturally. A battling 0-0 would be nice.

 

Honestly when matey missed that early header I thought "here we go again". Then when he missed that chance at 1-0 a minute after I thought likewise. Much improved.

 

Bratislava will probably turn out to be the weakest side in the whole tournament i think- even brugge will be a different proposition. Id be ecstatic with a draw in dortmund and, if im honest, happy enough with a conpetitive defeat which reinforces confidence that we can take points in the other games. The target for us is to finish above 24th and get into the play off round which computer simulations suggest will take 10 or 11 points. Very doable but im not counting chickens based on last night

 

I fucking hate this new format but it does seem to give weaker teams the chance to get points and salvage something.

 

£300k a week.

 

I think we'd have gone in this year with similar confidence of finishing 3rd in an average group and staying in europe that way so for us its mostly just good to get the extra games and play more teams. Sure beats playing st.mirren zzzz