Artur Beterbiev vs Dmitry Bivol: Who Wins?

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  1. puerto rock

    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I’d give Beterbiev and Bivol a chance against Target, and Beterbiev might even KO him, but I don’t see how either could be Hopkins or Calzaghe.
     
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    Im fairly sure tarver beats both of them. Spinks is a given.

    They are both better than Finnegan, but against all the others, id say its pretty muck a pick em
     
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    Bivol would whip tarver
     
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    Brilliant fight. Very close. So much talent in one ring. I had it to Bivol, but can see why many gave it to Beterbiev as he was busy. Depends on what you prefer when judging a fight. Hopefully there's an instant rematch.
     
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    Spinks? Lol.

    Spinks at 175 is literally one of the best fighters who ever lived. Neither Beter nor Bivol could shine his shoes.

    Both Beter and Bivol would give MSM a tough fight, but i think prime Saad stops both late. Especially Bivol.

    Marvin Johnson, they have a good chance of beating him.
     
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    Fraser Clarke, though. Damn. That was a serious quickfire knockout. His body was in the ring but his mind was somewhere else completely. Hope he's OK.
     
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    Bivol, Beter, Kov, and Michalczewski are the 4 best Eastern Euro light heavyweights of all time.

    Personally, I would say that the 2013-2015 Kov peaked higher than the other 3.
     
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    Conor Benn. Fuck me. He's fought absolutely no one whatsoever, yet he mouths off like he's some mega superstar. And why is he always angry?! Chill mate. It's ok. But please...make the Eubank fight so that Eubank can put this lad down and pipe him down for good...hopefully.
     
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    Back to Irish's post, John Conteh had a VERY brief peak, but in that brief peak I favor him over Bivol. Not entirely sure about Beter, as Conteh didn't have an iron chin. But Conteh had too many tools for Bivol.
     
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    That guy is one of THE WORST blokes to masquerade as a British-level HW I've ever seen. Glorified fucking doorman . Honestly. Him and Fraudley Fabio Wardley. Shite.
     
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    Dude looks like a post-wank Andrew Tate.

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    He's angry because he's unaccomplished and his best years are passing him by because he's made poor decisions, like taking chlomidine or whatever the fuck it is called .

    Jordan Peterson has a theory about aggression, serotonin and underachieving people.
     
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    Calzaghe? Tarver? Hopkins?

    I took think Spinks/Foster is a bridge too far. Moore, Charles a bridge too far too.

    Chris Finnegan might well defuse Beterbiev but get out shimmied by Beevol.
     
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    Btw ref did awful job in Wardley Vs Clarke rematch. Clarke did a worse job defending himself but ref should never have let Clarke turn off the ropes like that.
     
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    I've warmed to Fabio Wardley a bit. Kind of weird he's come from the white collar background with no real experience into pro boxing, but fair play to him he's putting in the graft, he's getting results and is fun to watch. Obviously he's no future great or anything like that, but he'd be a good pick for the "favourite b-level boxer" thread that was on here.

    Clarke is shit but he seems like a good guy, hopefully there's no serious, long-lasting damage.
     
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    I thought bivol deserved the nod. And feldman is as dirty as a diaper.
     
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    English isn't Bivol's first language, but I still enjoy listening to him speak. He said a lot depends on our emotions. Emotions may stop you from realising your true potential. Many fighters felt there is this aura of invincibility around Beterbiev, that he's some kind of monster. So instead of embracing the challenge, they already have their mind set and become scared and this effects their performance. Bivol was actually excited for the challenge. You have to believe in your ability.
     

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