Tszyu vs Murtazaliev IBF 154lb Oct 19 Florida

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  1. Irish

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    How is he a fraud? Well, he’s no Hall of Famer. He’s not a great fighter, or even a very good one. He’s gotten this far because he’s Kostya Tszyu's son and being an Aussie helps too. Aussies tend to rally behind their fighters because they’re loyal fans, but let’s be honest they don’t have a lot of big names to cheer for. When was the last time you heard about a Hall of Fame Aussie fighter other than Jeff Fenech? Who do you have? Jeff Fenech, Anthony Mundine, and Kostya Tszyu. And let's not forget, Kostya isn’t even Aussie...he’s Russian. But that’s beside the point.

    I stand behind what I said...he’s a bum and a fraud. He got this far because of his famous father who is a Hall of Famer. Sure he became a world champion...but was he ever going to be something special in his weight class? No. From the start, it was clear he was struggling. His skills were basic and there was nothing extraordinary about his talent. So, yeah, I stand by my words and I’m not apologizing for it.
     
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    Tszyus ambition exceeded his talent but he definitely isn't a fraud who relied on his father's name

    He came here to establish himself. Signed to face thurman who dropped out, so he accepted fundora as a late replacement

    He lost on a terrible cut and then signed to fight ortiz. He wasn't healed in time and was advised to wait till February to fight

    Instead he wanted to fight this year and took on a legit guy charlo has been avoiding for a while

    He may be mismanaged but hardly a fraud or a beneficiary of nepotsim

    He beat several contenders before all of this
     
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    Id never seen murtazaliev but he's solid.

    Tszyu really has been handled poorly by his camp. A trainer lookin out for his guy would never have allowed the fundora fight to go on for 8 or 10 more rounds after that atrocious cut

    Tszyu will still be in the mix as an opponent and can get a few more paydays. He should have went straight to lubin if that was on the table

    It's weird that his career has gone this route where he went with haymon.

    At any point after the thurman ppv fell through he could have just said fuck it and stayed in Australia and faced someone else.

    Its really true his ambition, or hubris depending how your view it , did him in

    Bum ass kambosos made a killing there and is a less talented guy
     
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    the news will be reported on today tonight's sports segment, along with something about Tyson
     
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    Roll With The Punches WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    it all got me thinking - have there ever been any good boxers that have origins from a rich millionaire family, growing up in a rich area, private schooling etc?
     
  8. Punk

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    If so it'll be an aberration.....who the fuck would wanna fight a bunch of maniacs when Daddy's trust fund is right there? Much better to conquer the business or medical field.
     
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    I think Tszyu had the hunger and the balls to have a go, and has proven to have a big heart....but he proper lost the plot in there thinking he was some Arturo Gatti style blood and guts warrior who would punch on with a big Chechen tough cunt and come out victorious.....

    He's literally never been that, he's a low workrate sharpshooter with an average beard and questionable defense who needed to box his way into the fight, use speed to grab points and grab/hold to stop the onslaught.
     
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    Azazel "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    True, I retract what I said earlier. Tszyu's future isn't bleak at all if his latest loss doesn't make him lose his hunger and drive. Talk of his career being mismanaged is the typical Neil idiocy, and I foolishly got caught in it :Jest:.

    As you mention, he can fight a couple of tuneups then pick up a paper title and still make 7 figure payday in Australia. A couple of losses don't ruin a fighter's marketability (unless your whole career is based on a sham a la Bute). His days as a potential worldwide superstar are most likely over though.
     
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    The big question though is how good Murtzaliev really is ?? First time seeing him and he looked solid but he might be a paper champ himself...
     

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