JOSH TAYLOR???...KELLY PAVLIK???...

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  1. REEDsART

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    Who was the Better FIGHTER of the 2??? Who Had the Better CAREER???

    REED Would Argue BOTH Shoulda/Woulda/Coulda Achieved More, if Not for Alcohol...Others Would Argue BOTH Got About ALL That Should've Been Expected of Them...

    Who was Better? Who Accomplished More? Who's Closer to HOF Status???...

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    Pavlik was def better with a higher upside
     
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    Pavlik was better and it's not even a tad bit close. Kelly was more gifted, more skilled, actually better defensively, much better stamina, better chin, and had a MUCH higher ring IQ. Taylor's a fucking idiot of a fighter. Kelly had a high fight IQ for an offensive fighter.

    Win-for-win, Jermain Taylor was a lot better than Prograis. And prime Miranda was better than Ramirez or anyone else Taylor beat.

    I dont care much about the whole undisputed bullshit. It's a lot easier to accomplish that feat in this watered down era.

    Pavlik was better and had a superior resume.
     
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    I reckon Pavlik will make the HOF in the next 5-7 years or so. Maybe even sooner, or maybe a bit further out. But unless he does something stupid that ends his life prematurely, he'll see the Hall before he's an old man.
     
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    He doesn't deserve to be there but he's better than Josh Taylor.
     
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    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Pavlik for sure. Much more talented and skilled. Taylor wasn’t really superior at anything. I think it was his determination and toughness that he really got by on.
     
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    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Yep. I dont see any case for Taylor
     
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    I feel a better/closer question would be to ask who peaked higher: Pavlik or Hatton? Thats a pretty good debate with a case for either guy.

    Josh isn't the same caliber as these guys.
     
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    Pavlik was better. Simple as.
     
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    Who wins , a prime panther Miranda vs munguia?
     
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    I think Munguia is too hittable for Miranda.

    Munguia is very average. I'd take both Miranda and Abraham in their primes to stop him.
     
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    Entertaining Scrap But Munguia's SHITTY Defense + Miranda's Firepower DOESN'T Bode Well...Miranda KO 5 or 6 in a War...



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    Yeah i think so too. It's not a lock but i'm going with Miranda.
     
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    Miranda finds a way to lose and blames Germany.
     
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    That wouldn't fly as Germany has never done anything wrong.
     
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