Ortiz vs Ennis

Leonard vs Hearns

 

More like 2nd string Hagler vs Hearns

 

Curry vs McCrory...



REED

 

And it’s gonna happen next.

 

the comparisons will be more appropriate based on the result and the rest of their careers

ortiz is better than mcCrory and ennis should prove to be better than curry. unless he begins sucking dick all of a sudden . neither are hearns. leonard or hagler.

two legitimate punchers with very good boxing skills as well, at their peak. if youre looking to find a past match at 154 lbs, its not comparable to anything that springs to mind at the moment. its something worth attending tho

 

dont jinx it, gladys

 

In fairness to Donald Curry, he had already built a HOF career by time he was Boots' age. Boots' career, to date, has been disappointing.

Ennis has to do more than beat Vergil before he surpass Curry's career. And he might do more, but enough of the bullshit. It's time for him to permanently fight elite guys.

Leonard, Hagler, Hearns? That ship has already sailed, as you already hinted at. Ennis is never gonna reach those 3 in terms of resume and quality. I dont think he's even good enough to do it if he tried. Ennis is an excellent talent, but he's not a talent on par with those 3.

 

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ortiz could expose that china chin

 

Ortiz people are going to be scraping him off the canvas once Boots is done with him...

 

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Ennis opens as -220 fav

 

I would be lying if I said that Saturday night's performance didn't give my Ennis prediction some pause. Of course it did. But I still see Ennis as the winner in this one. Lubin has always been a bum.

A few weeks ago I called Shakur vs Teo the pick em, and said that Ennis was the easy pick over Ortiz. I've changed my mind on that line of thinking.

Ennis-Ortiz is the harder match-up to pick a winner. Mainly because theres so little that we know about either guy.

Shakur, at least imo, is a clear favorite over Teo.

 

I feel strongly ennis wins and in onesided fashion. And ima big fan of ortiz. Stevenson lopez i could see going either way although I prefer to watch lopez fight much more

Id kinda hope ennis ortiz ends earlier than a prolonged career altering beating. Maybe im wrong about the talent of ennis and whether he's dynamic and powerful enough to take ortiz out quickly.

Ortiz gets busted up too if it comes down to a mid to later round war.

Maybe ortiz was still getting acclimated to 154 when bohachuk buzzed him a few times and he'll show a better chin next year but I've seen him hurt before. And hes gonna get tested by a much quicker athlete who can crack

 

We dont know how Boots will handle a guy with Vergil's firepower. For that reason, I feel confident, but not its a foregone conclusion level of confident.

But let the record show that I'm still picking Ennis by late stoppage. I'm not gonna change my mind.

 

I do suspect you're a bit wrong about Ennis' talent. You paint him almost as some Roy level guy. He's not that. But he is extremely talented and if he's even 75% of what we think he is, he should win this fight.

Put it this way...a great fighter will exploit a guy like Vergil in style. A merely very good fighter might win, but will struggle. And if Ennis is nowhere what we think he is... then yeah, he'll lose.

We shall see.

 

Ortiz has really good boxing skills, is well trained and is basically the suble scientist our forum darlings proclaimed margarito to be when it comes to slipping shots

 

Ennis defene seems a bit too leaky for me to not give a puncher like ortiz a chance

 

Yeah, this is accurate. It'd be foolish not to acknowledge that Verg has a puncher's chance.

We should have all our answers by round 4 imo. If Vergil's putting Boots on the ropes early like he did Lubin, Boots is in trouble.

If Boots takes some early shots from Ortiz well, and has the fight at center ring controlling the distance by the mid-rounds, then Vergil's in trouble.

 

I still lean ever so slightly towards Ennis due to him having the edge in skill, but…. Boots gets hit…A LOT… Ortiz is very live. I’m like 55-45 Boots.

If Boots chin is solid(Seems to be, so far), I think he will win with some rocky moments. Ortiz will get his licks in. Wouldn’t be at all shocked if both get hurt or hit the canvas at some point.

I expect fireworks.

 

Its impossible for Ennis-Ortiz not to have fireworks. Regardless of the winner, its gonna be exciting.

Teo-Shakur is more questionable, but I think people are sleeping (no pun intended) on that match-up. I expect both guys to be boxing in the pocket. Hope I'm not wrong.

 

I think Shakur vs Teo is gonna be cat and mouse with both guys taking turns at the aggressor and counter punching role. I think it’ll be competitive early on and by the mid rounds Shakur’s defense and counter punching will start to tell the tale. Shakur via UD is my call there.

 

Stevenson will be robeisy work for lopez

 

"LEAKY" is a Great Way to Put It...

Boots Seems to BELIEVE In His Punch Resistance...He's Offensive Minded and a "Slick Black Fighter" w/PHILLY Grit...He Hangs in the Pocket a Bit Toooooo Looooooong @ Times Though, to Get His Shots Off...Like He Did vs. Lima...Lima DRILLED the Shit Out of Boots w/a Left Cross That Boots Countered w/an Uppercut...He TOOK it Well Though...

Boots Gets toooo CUTE for His Own Good, Trying to Roll w/Shots Or Pull Away From Them @ the Very LAST MINUTE, Because it Looks Cooler...Problem Is, Boots' Defensive RADAR Ain't Good Enough to Pull it Off Consistently, So He EATS His Fair Share of Shots...

Boots WON'T Beat Vergil Ortiz Getting Hit as Much as he Did in the Karen RE, But REED Attributes That Performance to Being DEAD @ '47...Verg is a VERY Live Underdog Here, Based On the "Leaky" Defense You Noted...Being CUTE or Hanging in the Pocket tooooo Loooooooong w/Verg Could Get Dicey...



REED

 

I usually don’t read much into face offs or anything, but Boots did look a bit nervous when he was up there with Ortiz. Not SCARED, but I think he knows that this is gonna be different and that he’s gonna be properly challenged here.

I can’t wait for this fight, honestly.

 

REED Thinks Boots COULD Be More Defensively Responsible, He's Just Literally Never FELT the Need to, ie., Been Cracked HARD Enough to Warrant It, in His Mind....

Dangerous Game He's Playing, Because By the Time He Realizes He NEEDS to Play it Safer, It Could ALREADY Be Tooooo Late...



REED

 

Maybe I'm only drawing a parallel cause they both are from philly, but Boots sometimes remind me of Julian Williams with his tendancy to freeze for a fraction of second in the most dangereous of situations. Obviously, he's a much greater talent than Jrock was, so it's not as big a problem, but it's still cause of concern.

Anyway, bring it on. This is pretty much guaranteed to be a great fight and to answer questions we have on both of them

 

Matchroom has requested a hold on the march 28th date at mgm bland

 

Probably for Ennis vs. Lubin

 

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Oscar De La Hoya has told BoxingScene that he is moving on from making a bout between Vergil Ortiz and Jaron Ennis after he received no call from Eddie Hearn.

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