The "I NEVER was Impressed by Margarito" Bandwagon...

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Those of U that have Been Privy to REED's Boxing Opinions KNOW that REED has NEVER Thought Much of Antonio Margarito...

EVER...

3-4 Years Ago,REED Said "Margarito is NO BETTER than a 6 or 7 in ANY Particular Area"...& he ISN'T...His Best Qualities have ALWAYS Been his CHIN & his DETERMINATION...N Every OTHER Regard,he's an AVERAGE Fighter...

"ORDINARY" was the HIGHEST Compliment REED Ever Paid Margarito...& Last Night,N the Biggest Fight of his Career,Against Possibly the BEST Guy he's Ever Fought, Margarito AGAIN Looked "Ordinary"...

REED Still Isn't "Sold" on Paul Williams Either,but he's BETTER than Margarito,Undoubtedly...He'd B MORE Confident N a RE & Beat Margarito EASIER the Next Time...

REED has ALWAYS Been LEERY of Fighters who Built their Names on Being "Ducked" by this Guy or that Guy...Sorry,but Boxing Legacies R Built IN the Ring,NOT @ the Negotiating Table or N Boxing Mags...

This ISN'T Some Knee-Jerk,HINDSIGHT Revisionist Bullshit:nono: ...REED has NEVER Thought Much of Margarito...So Kindly Ride your Ass OFF N 2 the Sunset,Antonio...

On the BRIGHT Side,U Can Always Tell your Grandkids that U "Offered" Floyd 8 mil & he "Turned it Down"

"Poof,Vamoose Son of a Bitch" - Jay Z

If U were NEVER Impressed w/Margarito,like REED,let it B Known Here...

REED

 

Put me on the bandwagon.

 

you fail to recognize Margarito's abilities and strengths. to your untrained eye, he may seem "ordinary." but it's simply the result of your narrow-minded view of what constitutes a good fighter.

again, it will take some time, perhaps 1-2 years. but you will be forced to realize (or avoid through denial), that saturday's main event was between the two best welter-weights in the world. and i don't pretend that either of them have distinguished themselves as such. what i do claim is that in 1-2 year's time it will be evident.

despite Margarito's loss to Williams, i still pick him to beat:

PBF
Mosley
Cotto

if your take-away from Saturday was confirmation that Margarito is ordinary, then there's little hope for you as a broad-minded appreciator of talent.

 

Williams had the best gameplan last night as well as his gifts of height and reach, he executed well and held on the inside like he should have. Tony's track record with southpaws is getting worse

 

Stop talking crap Double :tease:

He is simply not that good. I love mexican fighters, I love their style, guts, toughness etc, but I have never liked margarito.

He's just not all that. He is actually worse than I thought, I picked him to beat williams handily.

Put me on the wagon.

 

I'm in.I never understood why people thought he could beat Floyd,though it doesn't excuse Floyd for ducking him like a bitch.

 

Ah,O.K ...

REED has a "Narrow Minded View of what Constitutes a Good Fighter" ...

4 Your Trangressions,REED's about to Put U on the Spot,DOUB...

Who's the BETTER Fighter??...Ricky Hatton or Antonio Margarito??...NOT who would WIN,but who's the BETTER Fighter???...

Who Brings MORE Skills,Talents & Abilities to a Fight???...Who has MORE OPTIONS During a Fight???...Who's More ACCOMPLISHED & Has a BETTER Resume???...

REED is Referencing Hatton Cause YOU Still REFUSE to Give HIM Credit,even AFTER he WAXED your Boy Castillo...REED isn't a Hatton Fan Either,but U've NEVER Heard REED Say he "Wasn't IMpressed" by Hatton from Time to Time...

Against Kostya,Maussa & Castillo, Hatton Looked like an ELITE Level Fighter,Something Antonio Margarito has NEVER EVER Done,N REED's Opinion...

Who's BETTER???...Hatton or Margarito???...Let's See how "Broad Minded" YOU R...

YOUR Problem is, ALL of your Boxing Opinions R CLOUDED by HATE...& Considering U've been Trumpeting Margarito for Several Years Now,It Doesn't Surprise REED that U're Trying to Candycoat his LOSS...

Bottomline, Margarito FINALLY Fights "Somebody" & his Ass LOST...CONVINCINGLY...



REED

 

He lost to a young undefeated contender. :doh:

Fits REED´s pattern, he´s more impressed with beating handpicked chumps than fighters, who are willing to challenge themselves, even if it means picking up a loss.

It wouldn´t look so stupid, if you didn´t always run when your favs lose, cause you cannot handle the heat. ::

 

Well Gatti was losing convincingly to NOBODIES for some time, and Floyd fought him. So there you have it. In a NUTshell.

 

When a fighter needs to win the last round of a twelve round fight in order to win the fdecision, I wouldn't consider it all that convincing.

Time will show how good or bad of a loss this was for Margarito.

 

how is Clottey not "somebody?" how is Cintron not "somebody?"

that's my objection. the idea that Margarito were somehow exposed because he lost a close fight to a guy who is obviously a threat to every single fighter in the division is stupid as fuck. and it's a cheap attempt on the part of Margarito's detractors to try to legitimize the case they've been making all these years to excuse PBF from facing him.

as far as Hatton, he's less skilled than Margarito, less durable, has worse stamina, doesn't punch as hard, and holds like a bitch, even in his best wins.

i fail to see how bringing up Hatton does anything for your argument.

 

People have already written him off ::

I'm just glad Floyd didn't beat him, imagine what it would be like then, "Margarito was the best " :laughing:

 

Exactly.

This is why this thread is shitty. Probably the shittiest thread I've seen in 6 months.

Now Fraud nuthuggers are saying "Fraud shouldn't have fought Margarito anyway" and using PAUL WILLIAMS victory as an excuse for why Fraud is a ducking fag.

Fraud Groupies. :clap:

 

HAHHAHAHAHAHA. Double you're off your fucking nut. Less skilled? What exactly does marge do better? Give up rounds? Low punch output? Hatton has better stamina and punches harder, and is more skilled and athletic, and MUCH MUCH faster. It's no contest.

So Castillo got taken out with 1 punch, by a guy who can't even really hit hard? :dunno:

When was the last time marge took out a good fighter with 1 punch again? :dunno:

The only possible argument could be that margarito is more durable, but even then, hatton has shown a sturdy chin, it's fine.

To think marge is a better fighter than hatton is pure ignorance/hate. It's lucky you don't bet on boxing double.

 

dsimon writes:

Put me on rEEd.:bears:

 

Its like Hagler ducking Duran, and Hearns KO'g Duran and Hagler saying "yeah, see, I was right not to bother with the bum"

Just how anybody turns a very close defeat to Paul Williams into a PRO for Floyd Mayweather when Floyd fought BUMDOMIR at 147 {with Bum coming off a TKO of GattI} is quite beyond me.

 

dsimon writes:

You are ridiculous:doh: :flip:.

If there was a currency that was based on the strength of ones prognostications and ability to foretell analyse events based on rational thinking you and petre would be in the poorhouse and you in particular would be one broke motherfucker.:: Even when the proof is spit in your eye you walk around blinking and saying what you see is reality. ::

 

PROOF OF WHAT

Margarito lost a slim decision to a fighter that just might have the beating of Mayweather. None of this changes the fact that Mayweather studiously avoided the guy whilst masquerading as a Welterweight against Bumdomir.

 

so you're saying Margarito was "exposed?"

are you saying that Margarito's loss to Williams is proof that he couldn't beat Cotto, Mosley or PBF?

do you think PBF could do to Margarito what Williams did? or that Cotto could? Or even Mosley?

could PBF throw enough punches to out-work Margarito even in the face of Margarito's steady and dangerous output?

i don't understand why the hell Margarito faced Williams. i guess he figured, as i did, that he'd knock him out. Williams is the one guy it turns out who could hang with Margarito. and perservere. but i promise you none of those other guys could.

so you're saying Margarito was "exposed?"

 

dsimon writes:

Bullshit. People can't stand the fact that Mayweather knew Margarito was not worth the time or effort. When Mayweather fights Hatton, a guy who is a challenge to him and has fought first tiere comp what will the popular refraine be then? that Margarito was better than Hatton::.

This line of reasoning is just plain absurd. Floyd was absolutely right to ignore Margarito for bigger fish to fry.

 

u guys make it really hard to be a Floyd fan:flip:

 

so when Forrest beats Baldomir, will you be saying, "why the hell did he give Baldomir the time of day?"

or, now that Gomez knocked out Gatti as decisively as PBF did, wasn't Gatti a "waist of time?"

 

Well, I'd say Margarito is certainly the better fighter, and tougher fight, at welterweight.

 

Yeah, he was exposed. Williams is not an elite fighter.

Marge was exposed as a decent, but NOT elite fighter. If he was an elite fighter, 1 - he would not have given up the first half of the fight by doing fuck all, and 2 - even if he did, he would have found a way to win, either by really turning it up late and taking Williams out, or at least knocking him down, and winning the final round.

Marge was exposed, he is not an elite fighter, end of story.

 

let's discuss next year. until then, you sit tight with your floyd-protecting perspective.

 

"Gee, Uh, I Always Kinda Rated Tony Myself"

 

dsimon writes:

In your mind Margarito lost that fight soley on style? :: Who did Margarito beat that convinces you of this fact? :dunno: Damn right Margarito was exposed. Williams is good but he has just started his ascension. He does not punch hard, why couldn't hard punching Margarito not hurt him? Is his chin that good that no welter could at least back him off?

What do you see that makes Margarito so devistating otherwise? He is a well rounded fighter that is kinda tough kinda slow and has a decent work rate, with no defense and no counterpunching ability. Am I missing something? This guy is a solid Mexican fighter. If he were in the lower weight divisions he would be a professional opponent for guys more polished... a tough guy to get through to move onto bigger and better things.

 

OK Double, but um, I hate floyd :dunno: ::

I can't wait to see him get KO'd.

And maybe not by KO but I think tall paul would stand a pretty good chance against floyd, as would hatton due to styles.

I just don't think marge is much good. One of your favourite fighters - Castillo - is MUCH better imo.

 

Exactly right mr Simon, that's exactly what marge is. Fuck, even JMM would school him if they were the same weight.

Cotto would hammer Marge and Williams all night.

 

Are you really telling me that Floyd looked at a guy who had just knocked out a guy that Floyd had had it a lot easier with {not to mention a full division south} and said to himself: YES, THIS SLOW ASS ARGENTINE WHO HAS JUST BEATEN THE MOST BEATABLE WELTERWEIGHT IN THE HISTORY OF WELTERWEIGHTS IS A "BIGGER FISH" THAN MARGARITO???????


Are you for real man????

Cos guess what? Look at Carlos face. Even he ain't sure of it.



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