In 25 years, who will boxing remember in a brighter light: Pacquiao or Mayweather Jr?

You can base this on career opposition, the manner of which they beat their opponents, their worth to boxing during their careers, and who created better memories for boxing fans.

Basically, who was more valuable to the sport during their respective careers.

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Floyd will be remembered for some first:

- First fighter whose fans give him credit for "other fighter's" wins.

- First fighter where half the crowd left during one of his World Championship fights

 

-First fighter to cry after a win against Gatti.

-First fighter to come to the ring dressed up as a roman soldier except the costume was way too big for him.

-First fighter to talk sh*t about knocking people the f*ck out but instead runs and runs like a little b*tch.

 

Floyd and it won't be close.

 

Floyd's fights are really awful. Everybody wants to see him get KTFO.

 

When Floyd loses his "0", his fall to the bottom will be much harder than Roy's.

 

Floyd will be remembered as a better/greater fighter than Pacquiao. It won't be close.

You also KNOW that a fighter like Pacquiao is gonna start getting his ass kicked all the time in a couple of years before he finally quits.

 

That's if he fights past his prime. The same thing happened tp Aaron Pryor, and Ray Leonard, and no one takes away from their career accomplishments. But when Roy got tagged by Tarver, he fell so far down the ranks that he almost hit rock bottom.

With Fraud, this fall will be 10 times harder because of the way he talks and the way he fights.

 

- First fighter to get caught stealing food and boxing gloves from another opponent while on press tour :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

 

Floyd will be remembered as the better boxer P4P, but Pac will be remembered by his KO's and his agressive style....and please 'bama, I know you're entitled to your opinion like everybody here, but PBF is by far one of the greatest of his era, don't turn this into a mayweather-bashing-with-no-evidence thread. Pac gets his props but will never be the talent behemot mayweather is, even though he is business minded this days and haven't fought his Barreras and Morales...

 

It's an interesting question, but at this point you'd have to say Pacquiao for his run over the past few years.

Morales & Barrera are considered two of the greatest Mexican champions of all time and Pac holds KO victories over both.

After October, he'll have two KO victories over each one.

 

Then come 2008 he'll complete the hatrick and beat up the other top featherweight of his era, Fagquez.

And he'll do it without stealing gloves or food from Fagquez's camp. ::

 

:: :laughing: ::

 

true but pac beat both of those guys on the downsides of their careers.

 

Pacquiao was the smaller man when he beat both of them, and Barrera was P4P#3 universally when Pacquiao beat him. Barrera WON another championship in a higher weight class after Pacquiao beat his ass too.

Saying "they were on the downside" of their careers is misleading.

 

Only in hindsight. At the time, Barrera was ruling the roost and was supposed to demolish Pacquaio.

 

Exactly. Everyone is shot after Pacquiao brutally KO's them.

 

dsimon writes:

That remains to be seen. Roy's fall was pretty hard. Lets not have such short memories. When the dud did Roy people were in shock and it was a beautiful thing. Roy showed up thinking he would get into a sparring match and the dud came, said as much for all to hear, and proceeded to turn Roy out into a a stiff beater trying to regaine lost glory.

Mayweather may well meet the same fate but lets not diminish the past in the meantime.

 

Are you kidding?

I'm fairly certain MAB was considered top 5 P4P at the time (2003). He'd beaten Morales in the rematch the previous year and hadn't shown ANY signs of slippage.

Morales didn't look shot in the rubbermatch with MAB either. Morales won a close but tough decision over Pac then came back and looked shot against Raheem before the rematch with Pac.

If Morales was shot for the rematch with Pac, Pac shot him.

 

Roy's fall wasn't due to 1 bad loss to Tarver. His next fight saw him obliterated by Glen Johnson and then after that, a really awful performance against Tarver where Roy ran and ran and did nothing, pretty much robbing all the fans of their money.

 

MAB was P4P #3 by the Ring Magazine before Pacquiao fought him, and MAB was a media favorite to win as well as a betting favorite.

Morales did lose, before rematching Pacquiao, IN A DIFFERENT WEIGHT CLASS. A lot of Pac haters fail to mention that. Even then, he was the one chasing and pursuing Raheem. Pac haters also fail to mention Pac was the FIRST fighter to knock down Morales legitely and stop him.

 

dsimon writes:

The dud started the landslide. He opened a door to Roy's chin. ::

 

Hold on now...let's not go too far withthe praise of Manny.

I think Morales had pushed his body one too many times to make weight and he'd gotten everything out of it that he could. The years of abuse caught up with him.

On the flipside, Manny matured physcially and was simply too strong for Morales. There's a big difference in Manny's size and strength from the first fight to the second.

Morales was pretty much shot but the time the rematch rolled around, but again...it was Pac who shot him in the first match.

The rematch occured at the very moment Pac got better and when Morales flamed out.

Many also forget that Morales fought a damn good fight for 8 rounds but ran out of gas. It's not like Manny dominated from start to finish like the third fight.

 

Obviously Floyd.

History remembers incredible talent MORE that excitement.

Roy Jones is more remembered than Nigel Benn....

 

Another useless analogy...when did Benn KO anyone NEAR the level of Morales or MAB?

 

McClellan (2 time Jackson Killer) and Barkley (2 time Hearns Killer) are nothing to sniff at....

 

I'd also say people forgot that during the first fight, it was close all the way to the end. Morales only won by 2 rounds and was wobbly on his feet during the 12th round when Pacquiao turned up the pressure and Morales stupidly went Southpaw.

 

That also depends on where you're at. No one gives a shit about Roy Jones in Europe while Nigel Benn is lionized. Boxing isn't only a U.S "thing."

 

That "wobbly on his feet" is another myth. He temporarily lost his balance. If that's the case, Manny was almost out several times against Morales and Marquez. His balance was terrible.

That's a fight where Morales won 7 CLEAR rounds. The rounds given to Pac were just that.; Rounds where you had to gauge how little Morales did vs how much Pac did.

 

stop rushing to judgement without thinking first. to repudiate your (P4P) point, roy jones was still near the top of the P4P rankings when he fought tarver right?

"however" back on point:

did NOT say either guy was shot, simply they were both on the DOWNsides of their respective careers. if you disagree fine but if you think you'll convince phonetap that barerra and morales were on the UPsides of their careers against pac then you are the one who's most certaintly kidding yourself...