Could have Margarito stood up to a prime Trinidad's power shots@147?

Of the first link, he looked slightly discomforted by that uppercut.

The 2nd, I agree - he backed up.

 

The Bhop fight wasn't at Tito's prime weight.

 

depends if Tito's gloves were illegally wrapped. i don't think any fighter at 147 could've traded with an illegally wraooed Tito and not be knocked out.

 

the wraooed tito was too much you think?::

 

well at least "o" is next to "p" on the keyboard. that hasn't "always" been the case in my messed up typing.

 

dsimon writes:

Stick to your guns brother LB! :bears: As for myself I have no idea how Tito would do but like LB I have no proof of Cintron's alleged power. To me he looked like a total amateur. And Stewart did not look like he had done much with him, but who knows.

Cintron. whatever his natural gifts has to learn the game seems to me.

 

dsimon writes:

It always will come back to the same point regarding Margarito. He may turn out to be great and then I would owe Kauli and Mitchell and Double an apology.... sort of. BUt my point is that he needs to fight a top guy to tell what his real skill level is. Thats why I thought the Judah fight would be good for him. He would be in against a guy who loses but who has A level power, speed and experience.

When I bring this point up everyone starts evaluating Judah but thats not the point! The point is that Antonio might be the best, or he may be just another Mexican brawler with a bit of weight on him... WE DON"T KNOW! Cintron to me looked like a complete amateur.

What a lot of people have brought up is that Margarito is hittable and that creates a problem. When one compares Margarito to Tito or to Cotto keep in mind a couple of things:

1) Both of these guys were technically accomplished fighters.

2) Cotto is a lot better and was always technically accomplished enough to beat the kind of guys that Margarito has beaten. Even though Cotto is a lot better now, the Cotto who almost lost to Torres was a lot more defensively accomplished than Margarito. And Cotto has improved vastly since that time.

 

the first one he said he wasn't hurt just off balance and Clottey caught him with a good one.

the 2nd was on the temple and he lost bearings for a minute when it happened but he was wobbled

Danny Perez dropped him once as well

 

I'm hardly a Tito fan, but anyone who honestly believes the loaded gloves theory is half way retarded.

 

As Others have Said, Margarita's HITTABILITY/LACK of Defense would B his Downfall...

When Tito Trinidad is LITERALLY Able to Hit an Opponent @ WILL, that Opponent DOES NOT Last the Distance...

Margarita would Withstand ALOT of Tito's Shots, Answer Back w/Some of his Own & Even Have his "Moments", but he WOULDN'T Last 10 Rounds w/a PRIME, 147-154 Trinindad...

No Way N Hell....


REED:nono:

 

:: :bears:

Good post! It would have been a brutal beating! A delight for the eyes.

 

It amuses me that Floyd fans (REED) and now Cotto fans (Hex) will go to great lengths to diminish Margarito. As if anyone ever called the guy great. He's just solid and that is all, he's a tough fight for anyone at 147.

I know you feel threatened but come on now, take this crap to mythical matchups!

 

Who's "Diminishing" him???:dunno: ...Margarita Does a Good Enough Job of that HIMSELF...

The Idea that he's this TERRIFYING Welterweight MONSTER, that EVERYBODY is Ducking, is what Rubs Fans the Wrong Way...

Sorry, but REED Isn't the LEAST Bit "Threatened" by ANY Fighter that CAN'T Beat Daniel Santos or Paul Williams N 3 Chances...


REED

 

Nah, that's bollocks Z.

You're right that Marge is a solid fighter, and nothing more.

But up until the Williams fight, many, many people - even people outside the Maxboxing team - touted him as a lot more than that.

He was considered one of the most underrated and ducked fighters in boxing, the best welterweight, someone who would beat floyd etc etc. He was really, really overrated.

He's no bum, but you said - he's just a solid fighter. Nothing special.

 

Like it or not, he's top 5 at 147 no doubt. He will give any welterweight alive a very stern test. I didn't see Floyd fight Williams of Santos. Who's to say he would beat either one of them? Yeah, I said it. You don't KNOW he would because he hasn't fought them, nor has he fought any of the top 3 guys at 147.

 

I don't see anyone still saying this stuff about Margarito so it should be dropped. Let's live in the present here. At this very point in history, Margarito is at worst in the top 5 at 147 and HE IS a threat to anyone in the division.

 

having great power and being a great fighter are two different things.

Cintron does have great power. Most of his kos are devastating. He reminds me of Ponce de Leon. Another guy who is a fucking stiff and will get outboxed by most elite fighters around him. But it's crazy not to recognize his power.

Margarito's chin was known to be solid before he fought Cintron. So it's not like this just happened overnight.

I'll bet you anything Cotto's shots won't hurt Tony either to the chin. They will only take effect until Cotto works the body enough.

 

He probably would have stood up early but late his ass goes to sleep. You can't go 12 rounds taking power shots from Tito.

 

BASED ON WHAT!!? What devastating KO's does he have over top competition? The answer is none because the best guys he fought dealt with his power okay.
Hell, even some of the bums he fought lasted the distance.

 

Could have Margarito stood up to a prime Trinidad's power shots@147?

NO.....but neither would MAYWEATHER,COTTO,CINTRON,CLOTTEY, or anyone else at 147 at the moment......

 

You can if you want to be a ruined fighter like Vargas/Reid...

 

Floyd would last the disttance with Tito. Floyd's chin is extremely solid, plus his great D. It'd take someone like a Hearns top stop Floyd.

You are correct about the rest however. Tito murks Cotto, Cintron, and Clottey. Wiliams, and Quintana also for that matter.

 

Floyd would dominate Tito and have him wishing he was washing cars in PR

Floyd could stand Tito's power, mostly cuz he would never be hit clean::

 

Damn straight. Floyd would school any version of Tito at any weight.

 

Bullshit! @147 or 154 Tito KHTFO!!!Can you imagine PBF fighting a prime 154 Tito the way he fought Delahoya?:laughing:


Tito ends that career!

 

Hopkins? He out boxed, outbrawled, out everythinged Tito over 12 painful rounds.

I voted for "not sure".

 

I disagree that PBF lasts the distance with a prime 154 version of Tito. If he fought Tito the way he did Delahoya he's fucked!

 

The Hopkins fight was a masterpiece! Plain and simple.

 

Cintron has only one world class attribute as a fighter, and that's his power. For someone to take his punches without flinching, it must mean he has a granite chin.

 

Not a chance in hell. Tito is not on Floyd level.