The "Paul Williams BOGGLES My Mind" Bandwagon...

What THE FUCK??!!!:notallthere:

It's Bad Enough Paul Williams is a Welter N a Lightheavy's Body (Fuck his "Official" Measurements, Dude's CLOSER to 6'3 than 6'1)...He Also Possesses Lennox LewisESQUE Reach, yet he's an Aggressive VOLUME Puncher...

& Despite the THIN, POINTY Ass LOOK of his Chin, Williams Actually TAKES a GOOD Shot w/Out Flinching...

So N his LAST Fight, he was TOTALLY & COMPLETELY SCHOOLED (SPARE REED the Hindsight Revisionist BULLSHIT, Dude was EASILY Beaten N the 1st Fight) by Carlos Quintana...& Despite NEVER Asserting Himself as a PUNCHER, Williams DISPLAYS that Element N the RE w/Quintana???...

WOW!!!...REED Can't Think of ANY Series of Fights that were as DRASTICALLY DIFFERENT as the Williams-Quintana Bouts...

Paul Williams is an ENIGMA, Encompassed by a RIDDLE, Wrapped Up N a MYSTERY...


REED:kidcool:

 

Yeah, and he'd f*ck up your boyfriend Money Pretty Bitch Mayweather, the little coward who opted to retire rather than face some real fighters. Scraping by a shot old Oscar and taking out tiny Hatton. What a legacy! ::

 

It's fitting that Pavlik and Williams were fighting on the same night.

They're both about two divisions south of where it looks like they should be.

 

he straight up SODOMIZED ya'lls boy Quitana!!

Some of the Quintana dick suckers here (Hanzy) thought he was gonna be the boss in there but the boss knocked your bitch asses out

 

There's got to be a rematch. This is one ANOMALY of a trilogy.

 

Who the f*ck is Quintana? I'm supporting Williams cause I know he'll rape Floyd's little asshole alive! That's why Floyd retired. To avoid getting raped.

 

It happens quite often when the percieved favourite loses fight one, comes back and wins fight two convincingly...people forget about fight three and fight two becomes the one and only, fight one....which never happened.

 

I know the trend is whoever wins the 2nd match wins the trilogy. I still would like to see it. Other than KO's by both fighters, this is pretty contrasting results.

SCHOOLING in the first fight

Annihilation the 2nd fight.


I guess Roy and Tarver can qualify.::

 

So could Roy v Griffin :bears:

 

No because Griffin was on his way to being KTFO like he was in the 2nd fight.:doh:

 

No proof of that.

 

The Roy-Griffin, Roy-Tarver Fights WEREN'T as Drastically Different as the Williams-Quintana Bouts have Been...

N Roy-Griffin I, Roy SHOWED that he Could HURT Griffin & even DROPPED him TWICE N 9 Rounds...So the Idea of Roy KO'ing Griffin N the RE SHOULDN'T have Been that FOREIGN to Anybody...

As for the Roy-Tarver Bouts, Tarver TROUBLED Roy GREATLY N the 1st Bout...That's the ONLY Reason they Had a RE N the 1st Place...On Top of that, EVERYBODY KNEW Tarver was a PUNCHER All Along...

N the Case of Quintana-Williams, the CHAMPION (Williams)was DOMINATED N the 1st Fight, yet KO'ed his Conqueror N 1 Round N the RE, Despite NEVER Exhibiting his "Punching" Prowess Previously...


REED:kidcool:

 

@ the Time of the DQ, Griffin had Been Dropped TWICE N a Span of 2 Rounds...

CLEARLY, the Tide had SHIFTED...Even if he DIDN'T KO him, Roy Jones was On his Way to WINNING that Bout, had it Went 12 Rounds...



REEDartie:

 

Maybe, maybe not. Thats all just pure conjection, my friend.

 

Just like your statement of Roy and Griffin1 and 2 being contrasting

 

Actually, the 2 Knockdowns N a Span of 2 Rounds is FACT, Not "Conjecture"...

Roy DROPPED Griffin N Rounds 7 & 9...

REED:kidcool:

 

In a dream world, Judah beats Clottey(unlikely) then KO's Williams(high unlikely). That'd make Williams a FURTHER mystery, as would it Zab.

Pipe dream I know. Zab is finished.

 

I'd love to see Clottey vs Williams. That would be an action fight for sure.

 

Indeed.

 

That Roy lost the fight is also not conjecture, its fact. Whats conjecture is the belief that Griffin would have lost had Roy not been DQed.

 

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Yeah, O.K....

Just like Andrew Golota "Lost" TWICE to Riddick Bowe, Right???...Just like Terry Norris "Lost" TWICE to that Scrub that had NOfuckingBUSINESS Being N the Ring w/him, Right???...

Don't YOU Run a Site Called "Boxing WITHOUT BULLSHIT"???...If So, STOP BS'ing, Dog...We ALL Know how those Fights REALLY Went Down...

Like REED Said ALL ALONG, Roy PROVED he Could HURT Griffin by DROPPING him TWICE N a Span of 2 Rounds...

Not Really Sure WHAT U're DISagreeing w/...It Seems U're Arguing just to Hear the Sound of YOUR OWN Typing...


REED:hammert:

 

I have no diea what you're arguing about, man. There is no argument as to the actual result of either fight. You're the one who seems to have a chip on your shoulder about it.

I'm not disagreeing that Roy could hurt Griffin, or that he was arguably winning the right. What I said was that both matches were completely different. Roy had little idea of what to do with Griffin in the first fight and run through him like a hot knife through butter in the rematch, which is the reason I brought it up for reference in this thread.

Its your continual and never ending defense of Roy Jones that is the reason we're even still talking about this. Relax already.

 

REED CANNOT See how Roy-Griffin is ON PAR w/Williams-Quintana, In Terms of how DRASTICALLY DIFFERENT the Outcomes were N the 2 Fights...

AGAIN, Roy EXHIBITED his Ability to HURT Griffin N the 1st Fight & if Not for the DQ, Roy would have @ LEAST Been EVEN or AHEAD on the Scorecards @ the Time of the 2nd Knockdown N Round 9...

As for Williams-Quintana, Williams was SCHOOLED Throughout their 1st Bout, NEVER 1nce Showed he Could HURT Quintana, yet ICED him N the RE....

It WASN'T All That Surprising to See Roy KO Griffin N the RE, yet NOBODY Picked Williams by KO N the Quintana RE...

REED's "Point" is, Williams-Quintana II is 1 of THE More DRASTIC Reversal of Pugilistic Fortunes that we've EVER Seen...MORESO than the Roy-Griffin Bouts...


REED:mj:

 

Why does it have to be on par, even, better or worse? It was just somewhat like these two fights. Thats it. Jeez man.

I actually picked Williams via late KO on another site. Thought I did so here as well and was dissapointed to see I went via decision. Anyway, this is a silly argument.

 

How did a Paul Williams thread turn into a thread about Roy?

Yall should at least just take it over to "Is Floyd greater than Roy?" thread.

Anyway, I think its likely that the winner of Cotto-Marg fights Williams.

I think the winner of Clottey-Judah will probably fight Berto to unify.

 

Not Really Sure...

REED Said Williams-Quintana I & II was Perhaps the Most DRASTIC Case of Completely DIFFERING Outcomes that we've EVER seen...Then Tam Brought Roy-Griffin I & II N 2 the Mix...

REED Stated Why he Thought Roy-Griffin PALED N Comparison to Williams-Quintana (w/in the Context of REED's Point) & Tam's PERIOD Started...


REED::

 

No doubt about it, Williams sure is a weird one.

 

He looked scary last night though. I think I'd pick him over Cotto at 147. In a re against Margarito, I'd pick him too. His jab seemed harder and his straight left seemed lethal. Maybe Quintana made him look better than he really is, but damn, he really impressed me last night. He impressed me too in spurts against Margarito, but last night was the first time I really thought "This guy is a monster". I have a very hard time believing he was just 156 last night, he just seemed 2 or 3 division bigger than Quintana. I don't know how he can be this big and this light at the same time, he must have very small bones.

 

Yeah it's freakish that on fight night he weighs just over 150 pounds, and he is like 6'3 ::

He weighs the same as me, and I am 5'9, and fairly lean.

I wouldn't pick him over Cotto, but he wouldn't be an easy fight either.

But then again, I thought he wouldn't be an easy fight for anyone, but Quintana beat him fairly easily in the first fight, so who knows. He is odd.

 

He's odd for sure. Regarding the first fight, some people said he didn't have a good camp and had trouble making weight, I tend to think it was true.

Cotto is about 5'6" or 5'7", I have a hard time seeing him getting inside with Williams. I also noticed a real difference in his jab, of course it was only one round, but still, if he starts to use it effectively to create distance, I have a really hard time seeing Cotto beating him. It's just a question of physical attributes here.

Anyway, I might be deceived by last night's fight, maybe Quitana got caught cold and couldn't recover, that happens sometimes.