The "Paul Williams BOGGLES My Mind" Bandwagon...

come on Hanzy.. you know you love Quintanan.. if he shot a load on your chin you'd lick it with your tounge and swallow it you milky licker

 

That's exactly what happened. Not to take anything away from Tall Paul, he did great, and got a first round KO, but to be honest his jab had very little to do with it.

He simply overwhelmed Quintana, and either Carlos wasn't prepared for it, or simply couldn't handle it.

I don't see how this fight gives him any better chance against Cotto.

Cotto is a lot better than quintana, and he is strong and robust at 147, experienced, and just a honed, well rounded, fighting machine.

Cotto's not going to get overwhelmed like that, or hurt that easily, and don't doubt that Cotto's hard, accurate punches would make Williams think twice about being so gung ho.

 

Williams is a much tougher opponent then Margarito is.

 

Given how they fought tooth and nail when they met, I'm not sure I agree. But I will say that, stylistically, Williams poses a very unique problem.

He was simply superb last night. The jab was VERY effective and he's pretty good on the inside. He was also a lot bouncier on his feet and showed good head movement. Excellent performance. A third match? Seems like everyone's asking for it. Let's see what Quintana says.

 

I agree.

I'm picking Cotto to dismantle and stop Marge, and just beat the fuck out of him basically.

Against Williams I think he would win close but clear, not by stoppage, and not by domination.

 

this sounds like something out of Seinfeld.

 

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I don't know that the jab had little to do with it. Williams finally threw it with purpose in this fight, landed it, and the first punch that seemed to get to Quintana was a left hand after a jab (actually a pair of them).

 

That's exactly what I've seen.

 

I agree. The Williams jab was very effective last night and he even used it well when he was finishing Quintana.

 

I wasn't aware the left hand came after a jab, it just seemed to come out of nowhere.

Incidentally, Tall Paul certainly caught quintana clean a few times in the first fight and nothing happened, how the hell did his power suddenly have such a devastating effect?

 

Thought I'd answer straight from the post :cheer:

 

The fight didn't even go three minutes and you're assesing the situation like he's some drasticaly changed fighter. Yeah, he won and won big; but one round KO's do not prove much in the way of change. The fight didn't even have time to get started and Quintana is historically a slow starter.

Props for Williams to exposing that, but I fail to see why Williams is all of a sudden "back". Whatever that means.

 

I'm not one to think Williams is a drastically chaged fighter, but just one point though - you have to admit it's kind of odd that he DID land clean in the first fight on occasion - and his punches seemed to have very little effect, and now he just blew Quintana out? And it was a single punch that hurt him.

I can't think of many fights where one fighter's power had such a drastically different effect from the first fight to the rematch, or vice versa.

 

I don't really care to think too much about it. It didnt even go a round. Fighters of all walks of life get called cold, by all manor of punchers and non-punchers. That isnt a rare occurance.

 

I guess so. And that doesn't seem odd, it happens, I guess the only odd part is they have fought before, and it didn't come close to happening then.

 

I wouldn't expect it to happen next time, either.

 

Is no so much what Quintana says, but IF Williams will give him a rematch, which I doubt. Williams wants to put Quintana in the past and go for bigger fights. Quintana told the press in P.R. that he was better prepared than for the first fight, but got caught cold. That he made a huge mistake of trying to punch back after the first knockdown instead of holding Williams until he felt less dizzy. "I made a mistake and paid dearly for it" Quintana said. He will decide what to do depending on what his promoter offers him. He also stated he felt mistreated as a champ when for the rematch Williams got paid $1.2 million versus $495 thousand for Quintana.

Oh, BTW the first two Leonard-Duran fights were very different too: the first fight Duran imposed his agressive style. In the second one Leonard clowned with Duran and humilliated him to the point of making him quit.

And in unrelated news to this thread...Daniel Ponce De Leon states the referee stopped the fight too early and demands a rematch. Juanma responded that there was no rematch clause and no one can force him to go for a straight rematch. In other words, Ponce De Leon has to earn a rematch while Juanma sets his sight on unifying the titles.

 

I would agree Williams hasn't proven he's a changed fighter. You can't do that in less than three minutes, or in a fight where you have all the motivation you need coming off your first loss and getting an immediate title rematch.

However, one problem I've had with Williams for a long time is that his style was based on punch quantity over quality, and I think that for at least one round/fight that changed a bit.

 

It looked like Williams made the decision to sit down on his punches and punch through his target a bit more in this fight.......for the short bit we got anyways.

He also was able to catch Quintana a couple times at the very end of his punch, something he didn't seem to be able to do much of the first time around.