Pavlik-Williams is on.

Arum says its just about a done deal, for Sep 27th. I admire Paul for having the balls to take the fight, but the cat has NO shot!

 

Pavlik is shamelessly ducking Amin Asikainen

 

I swear, if Kelly doesnt fight the smurf after Williams, I'll be mad as hell!

 

Im not going to say,.. WOW 'lil Williams' jumped up two divisions!!,.. the way 'lil Hopkins' did,..but he does have guts taking on Pavlik, the undisputed middleweight champion, who's a strong brutal puncher. This is a bad styles match up for the spider, although he loves to frantically weave his soft spinerettes around his victims and eventually subdue them, Pavlik is larger than you average middleweight, and armed with nippers like a tiger beetle, if Paul is to successfully cacoon this predator, he'd better be prepared to lose atleast 5 legs in doing so.

 

I guess we'll see how good Williams' chin really is.

 

Pathetic excuse for a fight.

 

No, it's a great fight, it's the Hagler - Hearns of 2008. :mj:

 

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Its the Taylor v Spinks of '08

 

I know, it's a pretty crap fight. Williams hasn't really shown any indication that he is a worthy challenger, or that he could compete at 160. Other than the Quintana rematch, it's not like he's been crushing welterweights like they were bugs.

His only hope is that Kelly takes it easy on him, being that he is just a welterweight.

I might not like the Smurf, but that would have been a far more competitive fight, and one that I would much rather see.

 

I agree! I give Williams props for taking this challenge but like X said he has zero shot.

 

Williams' handlers are very, very high on him. And they look at the first Quintana fight as a complete aberration. But this is surprising. Kelly Pavlik? I'll tell you what, it'll be very interesting to see if he takes a punch better with a much bigger frame - and if carries or gains pop along the way. If yes to both, he'll give Pavlik a hard time. But even then he's gotta be a huge underdog.

 

actually santos would be a bigger more dangerous foe for pavlik if he wants to look to the lower divisions. arum dislikes santos however.

 

OH GOD DAMMIT!!! :flip:

This had better be another Arum lie. I can't stand this match in any form. This could ruin Williams' career if he can't pull off the upset.

-it's no little feat to get a frame like his down to 147. If he seriously trains to fight as a 160 lbs guy, there is no way he'll be able to drop weight again.

-Pavlik is accurate and powerful; therefore he can conserve energy. Volume is Williams' key. Who knows if he can do that at middleweight.

-Pavlik has been knocked down as a middleweight, and won in that same fight. Williams has been wobbled by Welterweights, and on a night when he was a punch sponge he didn't really come close to winning.

-Let's say he does win...there is no doubt it's a friggin war, and that means he'll be a shell by the time he can get any other major fight. I WISH this were the equivalent of Spinks-Taylor because Spinks didn't get hurt in that fight. Punisher is is guaranteed to eat fists from the heaviest handed middleweight right now.

I think I'm going to vomit :bangh:

 

Some may call it a bullshit fight, and they're right when it comes to Pavlik. But in Williams' case, it is really a huge gamble with his boxing career. Like BnB just said, if he leaves WW he won't get back there, not with that LHW frame. If he loses this fight badly, he'll be stuck in a division where he's nothing. He has a lot to lose, but this is the kind of move that could make him a star: huge risk, huge reward. I can't say I'm not interested in this fight.

 

Well at least this fight will be exciting, unlike Taylor-Spinks. But if Paul sees past the 6th round, I'll be shocked.

 

Pavlik wants nothing to do with Santos.

 

Lets not go overboard here about Santos. With his chin, theres no way I'd pick him over Pavlik. Though I admit, he'd be more of a threat than Williams.

 

Clearly you have forgotten about me. It's been a while. Hi, i am Hitman - good to meet you.

 

at least Williams has size and talent

santos is garbage

 

If he's garbage, then margarito is a pure piece of shit, even lower than garbage.

I would probably pick Santos over Williams, he's a good fighter, and a big 154 pounder.

 

This will be confirmed in 2 weeks.

 

This is a huge gamble for Williams no doubt. But sometimes in Boxing we are very surprised on the outcome. You never know. If Williams can pull off a huge upset ( very, very unlikely, his options are endless and he will stamp his mark in boxing history.:mj:

 

This is a bullshit ass fight. Why in the fuck is Pavlik taking this fight. I can understand why WIlliams is taking the fight but what is Pavliks reason. He has absolutely nothing to gain from taking this fight and Williams has everything. This is whack. I might boycott this bullshit. I'll Holla 5000

 

It aint that bad, keep in mind that the spider is not a welterweight, and Paul has a pretty good chin, it is a bit of a mystery as to how he will perform at 160 against other middleweights, but that frame and reach of his has weight divisions to spare, he'll give whitey a good run I reckon.

 

The fight is terrible because it robs us of all the intriguing matchup that Williams could have at 147

 

Why isn't Williams a welterweight. He makes the weight doesn't he. That's just like someone saying that Hatton ain't a jr.welter weight when he comes into the ring with such a weight advantage over of his opponents. You are what the weight class you weigh in at. We have never heard anyone say that Williams has cheated while on the scales. Besides boxing is based on weight and not how tall you are or how long your reach is. Williams is a welterweight moving up in 2 weight classes to fight. Bullshit move on Pavliks part. Anybody else would get mad shit talked about them for picking a cat not only 1 division but 2 divisions. I'm a Pavlik fan but I may have to sit this one out. I'll Holla 5000

 

Yeah and that's what I believe is bullshit, you have monsters like Suarez, Williams, Cintron and Margarito, who have exceptional genetical traits to cut weight better than normal fighters of thier same measurements who've got no choice but to fight in the divisions where they more accurately belong. Weight divisions SHOULD be categorised by the calculation of overall mass at a core fitness weight, where ofcourse no measures to drastically deflate in weight have been taken. In this sense, I love the big black spider and the way he spins his web around his fluttering little moth-like opponents, but he's not a welterweight, and I believe he'll bind Pavlik's hands and legs together, you should too.

 

Poor Williams is gonna get brutalized. Shame on Pavlik for taking this fight.

 

cuz bitch ass Crapzaga is duckin him..

I hope Roy knocks Crapzaga out!!