Calzaghe-Jones is "a done deal" for September 20th at MSG

When was the last time Calzaghe stopped somebody? Yeah I know Manfredo. But was that a legit stoppage. Anyhow Roy is gonna shock the world when he makes Calzaghe look ametuerish. I'll Holla 5000

 

I agree with everything.

I pulling for Roy too, the only thing that worries me is Roy laying on the ropes to much and Calzaghe winning just because he is throwing more slaps (even though they will do little damage).

 

if he took his foot off the pedal then, why wouldnt he do it now?

he certainly don't have those capabilities as he used to. why couldnt he stop tarver in round 5 of their 3rd fight when he had the chance?

 

But nobody is saying that Calzaghe is gonna win on power.

 

I will say this about the fight. If there is one elite fighter I'd give Roy a good shot to beat it is Calzaghe. He doesn't hit hard and he's open to counters. Calzaghe should obviously be favored, but I give Roy a shot.

 

plus, calzaghe in his last two fights beat two elite level fighters. roy beat two bums and a shot, blown up jr. middle.

 

I will bet anyone any amount of money or sigspace or anything that Calzaghe wins.

 

Trinidad could be precise when he had a target to punch at and when his opponents engaged him. You could take punches out of his arsenal if you moved the target, or had a sharp enough defense.

Calzaghe's faster with his punches and lighter on his feet...he doesn't sit down on his punches, which makes him completey different from Trinidad.

And as was mentioned, Trinidad came out of retirement to fight Jones at 170...which was actually Jones coming down in weight.

Calzaghe may leave openings, but again, will Jones be thinking offensively when Calzaghe's coming forward and punching?

The only reason he may is if he doesn't respect his power...but I'm not ready to believe Jones doesn't respect anybody's power, given the lack of confidence he's shown in some of his recent outings.

 

How long did Calzaghe spend on the canvas in the first round? A couple seconds?

And that was from a pinpoint right hand on the button that he walked into from one of the best trap-setters in the game.

And to your earlier point about Wright not hurting Trinidad, Wright was coming up from 154, and was never a puncher there. Jones was coming down from light heavyweight.

 

Today's Version of Roy Jones Could AFFORD to Take his Foot Off the Pedal vs. Tito...As it Turned Out, Tito WASN'T a Threat to Him...

As for the 3rd Tarver Fight, Roy was CLEARLY SPOOKED...Tarver was the "Boogey Man" & Roy Fought NOT To Lose (NOT to B KO'ed), Instead of Fighting to WIN....



REED:kidcool:

 

REED Wasn't Insinuating that Calzaghe was HURT...REED was Illustrating to Jaws the DIFFERENCE N "Dropping" Someone & Knocking Someone Off Balance...

REED's Winky/Tito/Roy Point was Also Related to a Post of Jaws...

CONTEXT, Brother...CONTEXT...


REED:kidcool:

 

Seriously, do U Expect Roy Jones to Just Sit There & ALLOW Himself to B PITTY-PATTED N 2 "Bolivian"???:dunno:...

Even if he's Being OUTLANDED, it's NOT like Roy WON'T Fire Back Eventually...@ his Absolute WORST (Glencoffe & 3rd Tarver Fights)Roy COUNTERED EFFECTIVELY when Pressured...

N Glencoffe's Case, he just ATE Every Counter Roy Hit him w/...But Roy DID Hurt Johnson w/Head AND Bodyshots, Prior to Getting KO'ed...& if REED's Not Mistaken, Roy HURT Tarver w/a Counter UPPERCUT Off the Ropes...

MENTALLY, Roy's N a Better Place NOW than he was N Either of those Fights...Against Calzaghe, Roy will B as CONFIDENT as he's Been N the Last 5 Years...

Roy has BETTER Handspeed than Calzaghe AND he's the STRAIGHTER Puncher...He's GOING to Land & OFTEN...


REED:mj:

 

Jones has taken confidence builders, there's no doubt about that. And he's bided his time until a winnable enough big money fight became available for him to take it (I don't think he wants a part of Tarver or Johnson again...and probalby not Dawson either). Calzaghe isn't the knockout threat to him that those three are, IMO.

Maybe he's more confident now, but he's not as good physically as that fight. Jones is partly more comfortable in the ring because he comes into it with the mindset of protecting his chin even more than usual, and he's done a decent job of it in recent fights.

But I still think he has to prove he's willing to take some punches from Calzaghe, becasue as much as you've made of Jones' athleticism, Calzaghe's one of the more athletic fighters he's faced in years and he's active.

Jones has a lot of variables in this fight...legs, timing and willingness to fight.

 

I agree with this, but...

I think the fact that Calzaghe is not a one punch KO guy is being overstated so far. There is no doubt that his punching technique deserves the "slappy" title. He sacrifices form for speed, IMHO, because he's naturally powerful. If Calzaghe straightened his punches out, I think he'd drop his speed a notch or two to find the target...he'd end up in the Pavlik category. Calzaghe is able to overwhelm guys, not just because of his workrate, but because he actually DOES DAMAGE WITH EACH PUNCH. We've seen a guy like Juan Diaz play the high workrate card, with good punching form even, but that only gets you so far.

Having said that, I'm picking Calzaghe by decision. I would NOT be shocked in even the slightest if Jones wins this, even by KO, for the reasons you mentioned in your post.

Honestly, I'm getting pumped for this fight artie:

 

Eubank is on record as saying that even tho Calzaghe's punches look like slaps, they are much harder than they look. Seems such a shame that a possibly exciting, powerful punch is wasted because he punches like woman in an attempt to overwhlem everyone with sheer punching volume

 

Eubank is on record as saying that even tho Calzaghe's punches look like slaps, they are much harder than they look. Seems such a shame that a possibly exciting, powerful punch is wasted because he punches like woman in an attempt to overwhlem everyone with sheer punching volume

 

That's interesting, I didn't know Eubs said that.

There seems to be a big range of differing opinions on how hard Calzaghe can punch.

I agree that he has some power, he just chooses not to use it, and has adopted his speedy, unpredictable freestyle way of fighting.

Which is obviously more original than a powerpuncher, and has certainly brought him a lot of success.

 

As Roy Jones himself pointed out, Calzaghe's power is very deceptive. No, the slaps aren't hard but he mixes in some very, very hard straight shots in between those slaps. The key is not giving him space to extend. From mid-range Calzaghe is a terror.

 

His slaps and workrate are mostly likely due to his hand problems.

He barely laid a glove on Manfredo and managed to damage his hand.