Fedor will go down as the Sugar Ray Robinson of MMA.

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  1. Beyond the Grave

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    He has raised the bar so high ,there's no telling how long it will be before someone tops what he's done for example

    Currently on a 27 fight win streak.

    And he hasnt lost a round in any of those fights.

    And what he did to Tim Sylvia (top 5 heavyweight) tonight was a brutal reminder to the haters and the fans that don't know shit,that Fedor is the most dominant fighter in the sport.
     
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    REED DOESN'T Disagree w/your Point, Necessarily...

    But U're VERY INCONSISTENT, Dog...REED Recalls YOU Being Among the More HARSH Critics of Roy Jones, Over the Years...Like the Other haters, YOU Cited Roy's Level of Opposition, how Frequently he DIDN'T Fight & Other Assorted Things...

    But @ the Same Time, U'll WILLINGLY Allow Fedor to MAINTAIN his # 1 Spot, Lb for Lb, even when Anderson Silva has CLEARLY Done MORE to Deserve that Designation, Recently???...

    Right Now, Fedor is More like the "Roy Jones of MMA" than the Ray Robinson...
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    valdosta Undisputed Champion

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    Fedor's a badass for sure. No big weakness's besides the fact that he cuts kind of easy. As for not losing any rounds, did he win round 1 against Cro Cop?
     
  4. Hanz

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    What's with this P4P bullsh*t? That's something invented by little men in boxing who can't compete with the big men so they have this P4P crap going on. Anderson Silva is a fine talent but he's not a heavyweight. The best fighter in the world is Fedor Emelianenko. Fedor would murder anybody whom Anderson has faced. I'm not so sure Anderson would do the same against Fedor's comp.
     
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    It was a close round but he won it. He won all the rounds on the scorecards.
     
  6. Beyond the Grave

    Beyond the Grave Undisputed Champion

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    Anderson Silva is not better than Fedor...and p4p has always been a joke,even in mma.I would rather use my common sense.
     
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    Excellent analogy

    Fedor is the Roy Jones of MMA. He is clearly the best of his era... but for various reasons has not consistently faced the top competition available. When he does however, like Jones, he leaves zero doubt about who is the greatest fighter of his time, he makes everyone look like the same weak fighter, in comparison to himself.

    Unlike boxing, MMA is still in it's "first era", so in the case of Fedor it makes him the greatest fighter ever, and hindsight will make him the Ray Robinson of MMA. But for right now Roy Jones is a better match.
     
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    Comparing Fedor to RJJ sounds like a fair comparison, pre-tarver of course. They both have godlike ability and are on another level compared to their competition. After last night, I seriously don't know who the hell is going to beat this guy, unless father time catches him.
     
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    That can't be proved. Pride wasn't scored like that. I think he lost that round to be honest. I remember he dominated rounds 2 and 3 but he got shook in round 1 and lost it.
     
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    I've followed his career for 7 years now, watched every single match he's ever had including his Sambo tournament matches and I'm seeing him kill guys faster and faster with each performance. Furthermore, I'm seeing him use new and different submission moves and he continuously proves how well-versed he is. At 31, I don't think he's even hit his peak yet. His way of doing things in the ring is so economical, he makes you think "Hey, MMA looks so easy!" :lol: The man is physically young. He's got a long time to go yet.
    Dana sh*t himself yesterday. The f*cker's former UFC champion got mauled.
    Furthermore, let's compare performances between Fedor and Randy Couture.
    Couture rocked and dropped Tim Sylvia, got him in a rear naked but the fight went the full 5 rounds. Fedor likewise rocked and dropped Tim, got him in a rear and the fight was over within seconds.
    The way I see it, if Randy fights Fedor, Randy likely is fighting himself but a much younger, stronger, faster, more powerful, more explosive and more skilled version of himself.
    It won't end well for Randy IMO. This is unlike any man he's ever faced in his life.
     
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    He got shook for about half a second, then he proceeded to take Mirko down and do his business. I won't argue with anybody if they think CroCop deserved that round. CroCop fought scared. He was running away from Fedor as Fedor tried to bring it.
     
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    Agreed. F*ck p4p! It's about who is the best in the world. Floyd Mayweather ain't gonna KO Wladimir Klitschko. But they wanna use this P4P concept to make Floyd out to be the best when we all know he'd be raped if he stepped up.
     
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    Lb for Lb is Such a "Joke" that YOU Participate in AND COMPLAIN about TFK's Lb for Lb List???...

    Again, REED is Going Back in the Day (Particularly @ Boxing Fanatics)when Cats like YOU Couldn't Bitch Enough about Roy Jones...Even when he was CLEARLY THE Best Fighter in Boxing, BAR NONE, you had Beef w/him...

    Well Guess What???...ALOT of the Same Criticisms CAN B Used Against Fedor, but Because U LIKE Fedor, U Choose NOT to "Go There"...That's YOUR Prerogative, but just Recognize that it's a Bit Hypocritical, Dog...

    In the Last 2 Years, who's Faced BETTER Opposition???...Silva or Fedor???...Bottom Line, Silva's Been AS Dominant as Fedor, Against a HIGHER Level of Comp, in the Last Couple Years...

    U DID See how he DISMANTLED Irvin, Didn't U???...



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    this is such a tough argument. Both guys are sooo dominant and its tough to look negatively at either one. Both fighters are raping their respective divisions so I just like to sit back and be thankful I can witness these two greats in action.

    As Fedor put it when asked after the fight about people comparing him and Silva for P4P he replied "I don't really care about these comparisons".
     
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    Can it Reed! What the heck would you know about Anderson or Fedor? You only started watching MMA about a year and a half ago and came on here asking for some history on MMA and its fighters. Now you're acting like you know all your sh*t.
    You missed all the years when Fedor was raping mofos like bitches, best you can do is relive it through dvds and try to play catch-up.
    Anderson's comp is ok for UFC level but he ain't no f*ckin Fedor! Fedor's proven he's the best against the best. Anderson tapped out like a little cunt in a leg submission from some japanese can.
    Who the f*ck really is Leben, Lutter, and manufactured UFC crap whom they've been throwing at Silva? Anderson's comp is WAY overrated! Who the f*ck is James Irvin?
    I ain't down with P4P. If Anderson wants to claim he's the #1 fighter in the world, he needs to step up to heavyweight and take on Fedor or Noguira or some of the best fighters in the world. That's when you're the best, when you can beat the best in the world. Anderson's only the best at 185. So how you gonna claim he's better than Fedor? :lol:
     
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    Chill out dude, its just debate.
     
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    MMA is not like boxing. This isnt really its first era. Guys that dominated before like Royce Grace and even Marco Rua, would get beat today. The game has changed greatly since the early 90s.
     
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    He doesnt care, because there is no comparison and he knows it. Put silva in the ring with Nog, Jackson, Henderson, Cro-Cop, Forrest, etc. Big names. ANd lets see. Silva has a long way to go if he wants to catch fedor.
     
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    I love Anderson Silva as much as the next guy but this argument is F*cking BULLSH*T!!!!! How's a 185lber gonna claim greatness over a heavyweight? Heavyweight is the elite level, it doesn't go any higher. Anderson fights at 185. Why even use your stupid p4p concept in MMA? Keep that sh*t in boxing where little cunts like Floyd use that status to gloat their sh*t. P4p is used by pussies who can't fight at the higher weight classes. What use would P4P be if f*cking Fairyweather stepped up to Wlad? What's his pussy little P4P gonna do for him then when Wlad's fist is embedded in Floyd's head?
    Like I said, keep that P4P sh*t in boxing for the little sh*ts who don't want none of the big boys.
    Drop that P4P sh*t Reed. MMA fans don't wanna hear it.
     
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    Reed misread the title of the thread.I said when its all said and done...like when fedor retires.
     
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    U've NEVER Seen REED Repping Himself an an MMA "Know it All"...& U Never Will...

    "However" N the Last Year & 1/2, REED has Seen No Fewer than 10 Fights of Fedor's & 8-10 of Silva's...

    Just like New Boxing Fans Research Old Tapes/DVD's to Get Up to Speed on Guys, the SAME Can B Done for MMA...Why Else would UFC Replay their Bouts Soooooooo Fucking FREQUENTLY???...

    FoxSports has a PRIDE Special where they'll FEATURE a Particular Fighter, Showing 4-5 Bouts PER Episode...Moreso, Frank Trigg Takes the Time to ANALYZE the Action in those Bouts, to Newer Fans like REED...

    Sure, REED is on the SHALLOW End of the MMA Knowledge Pool, but REED HAS SEEN Enough of Silva AND Fedor (& Most of the Other Top Ranked Guys) to Speak INTELLIGENTLY about them Both...



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    Oh Really???...

    Then WHY Do Practically ALL of the "Voices" of MMA Constantly Harp on "Lb 4 Lb"???...

    Joe Rogan, Dana White CONSTANTLY Talk about it...During the Fedor Telecast, Glazer, Trigg & McCarthy CONSTANTLY Talked about it...Even Frank Mir Talks about it whenever Faber Fights....

    & Those Guys Know MUCH More about MMA than YOU Do...


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    Because they're ripping off boxing. Everything they do in mma is a rip off of boxing. Not really their fault, it's regulated and overseen by those same boxing clowns. Even the judges are boxing refs and they use the boxing point system. Now they wanna do P4P crap in mma which makes no sense. Not that it ever did.
    Like I said, discard p4p and just use your better judgement. If Anderson is the best in the world, he better go up and fight the best in the world. Not some UFC bums at 185.
     
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    so you think we should just get rid of weight classes?
     
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    Big deal. Max Kellerman thinks he's a f*cking boxing almanac with all the sh*t he's read in his life. But he's still a stupid queer and knows nothing. F*ck my 4 year old little sh*t could pick fights better than this prick.
    You feel me Reed?
     
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    Weight classes is so that nobody dies.
     
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    So Basically if U're NOT a Heavyweight, U SHOULDN'T Even Bother to Compete in Combat Sports???...

    That's YOUR Example of "using Better Judgement"???....


    REED:boohoo:
     
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    Handicapping Fights ISN'T Necessarily an Indicator of "Knowledge"...It's Almost like Flipping a Coin...

    REED Knows PLENTY of Boxing TRAINERS who CAN'T Pick Fights for Shit...Yet they can Take a Kid who DOESN'T Know a Jab from an Uppercut & MAKE Something Out of him...



    REED:hammert:
     
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    LOK I'll eat your asshole alive

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    Hanzy is a SUPER heavy but little ass Floyd would STRETCH his ass
     

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