damn, Damn, DAMN!!!....

:bears:

 

:laughing: Thats some bullshit


Eat crow snitch bitch, Serves you right for talking all that shit:shit: prior to the fight.:flip:
Seeing you get owned never gets old.

Viva Mexico!

 

Reed please,..our mutual issues are more to do with Margarito - Fraud than they are to do with Margarito - Cotto :nono:, .......but I will say that Fraud saw, what Reed didn't see in Margarito before this fight, and he is as scared of Margarito as a pro fighter could possibly be of another, and it directly relates to Fraud's traumatizing experience with Castillo and Drakulich,.. Fraud is horrified, absolutely HORRIFIED... of having any element of his illegal defensive system disabled, if you take away his elbow, palm thrusts, forearms, as Drakulich did, ......he's forced to transcend into conventional mush, and he's not used to, nor does he like blocking in a conventional manner, it doesn't protect him enough and he FREEZES waiting for his opponent to stop punching at him, Fraud then knows, be it a follow up warning for turning his back, and or for excessive running,.. his arse is for Margarito's to be EATEN,.. Fraud realises Margarito would bring to focus more than anyone, all of his rule-bending felonies, which frankly, makes Fraud, one of this sports, biggest cancers,..and this is well BEFORE factoring in aaaaaaaaalllllllll his other despicable components that are detrimental to boxing :nono:.

 

bitch, Marge-Floyd would be Corrales - Floyd without the knockdowns

 

So you mean Roy Jones/Richard Hall?

 

If Mayweather couldn't do that against Baldomir it's doubtful he'd do it against Margarito.

Seriously, what makes you think Mayweather can put on that performance at 147 at this point in his career (if there still is one)?

 

Margarito would bend Fraud's spine, he'd punish that shoulder roll shit so badly that Fraud would have the kind of chiropractic problems you see in Illuminati's avatars on a daily basis :nono:.

 

The one thing about Margarito, he doesn't need an opening or a clear target to let his punches go...if you're anywhere in his vicinity he's going to be throwing both hands at you, and whether they miss, land, or graze you he just keeps throwing.

I don't see Mayweather wanting to come out of "retirement" for that....not after Margarito re-arranged Cotto's face last night.

 

:laughing: I know,..the thought of Fraud coming out of retirement to face Margarito,...:laughing::laughing::laughing: and Slystaff wants to sig-bet it happens.

 

Credit to Mayweather if he does, but I doubt a fighter who dubs himself "Money" would come out of retirement for what would be a far smaller payday than the one he gave up just a few months before it.

There's not much business sense in it, unless he really didn't want to fight DLH with his daddy in his corner.

 

why would mayweather pass on a fight that would pay him twice as much money to take a fight with margarito that would be 3 times as difficult

 

Floyd would beat either of these guys

 

Well Fraud fans are a hybrid of two main splitting components that I can see, some are more desperately in denial, and still believe that Fraud honours the sport and his fans with.....'meaningful' :: fights (especially relevant to his division),...and they always will be in denial "Da next ones da one!",....and then there are the others who have moreso fallen 'in line' with loving emphasis on his perce, ppv figures, and methods of remaining in the media's headlines,..

 

With absolute ease. I hate that fucking cocksucker PBF. I mean that word literally by the way. He is a "fucking peon" in the immortal words of Larry "aka Johnny Walker Red" Merchant. However, he is one of the most talented pieces of shit to ever lace them up. That idiot wouldn't lose to either of these guys even if he ate shellfish.

 

dsimon writes:

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How do you take your crow?








Is A1 how crows are done?





Or do you prefer one of the hot sauces?

:dunno:

 

Ironically Im more impressed by Cotto AFTER this fight than before. I always suspected he was somewhat fragile, but I never realized he had the kind of skills he showed, in the first 6 rounds especially. Props to both fighters for their performances, that was a great fight.
:bears::bears::bears:

 

This line of thinking is precisely why Floyd has been tagged with "ducking" Margarito for the past couple years.

It's good to see one of his non-salaried love children step up and admit to it.

 

What a fight!!

As stated in my prediction, I was surprised at the overwhelming amount of people picking Cotto to win - and many had him winning easily.

To me, the true "logic" dictated that Cotto would start fast and well, then Margarito would eventually catch up to him and wear him down for either a late stoppage, or a very, very close decision...and I expected the boards to be evenly split.

I picked Cotto in an MD/SD squeaker for those reasons. Should have gone with logic. LOL.

Props to Margarito. The man is no doubt an animal, a beast, the Son of Satan - "el hijo del Diablo."

Well, not really, but he showed an absolutely iron chin; a will of steel; and the ability to apply relentless pressure. His stamina and resistance are incredibly good.

And though people insist on him being crude, I continue to insist (and always have) that he is more cagey, wily and smart than given credit for; especially inside. He loves to wing wide shots, but when he's pressuring you or had you on the ropes alot of times he does that to get the opponent to open up and set up his short, digging, vicious shots on the inside and up the middle.

Credit to Cotto that he was able to land as cleanly and accurately as he did...contrast that with Williams who was not able to land that cleanly on Margarito at all when Tony simply covered up.

The way Margarito tightened the noose round after round was great to watch. I thought Cotto could put a serious dent in Margarito...and I think he did to an extent; it's just that Margarito simply chose to walk through it.

Margarito will be tough to beat (and always has been) because he will throw punches where-ever and whenever he needs to. He will not wait for an opening; he will target arms, shoulders, flanks, gloves, ANYWHERE - and ultimately it will wear down his opponents. Cotto caught plenty of Margarito's shots; you could clearly see him picking them off on his arms to both head and body...problem is those sledgehammer shots will tire out the arms - and opponents will feel them through the parry to their head and body.

I thought Cotto could pull through that for two more rounds in my prediction. But he couldn't...and Cotto is pretty strong.

I KNEW Cotto would bust up - people have to realize that he bleeds very easily, especially around the lips and mouth which then bleed profusely. That should never, ever be a factor when scoring fights.

The size difference is significant. Margarito was - and is - huge.

I don't want to see a rematch, for the sake of both guys (more for Cotto's of course)....at least not until they've continued their separate ways for a while and Cotto has shown he can and has recovered.

Cotto fought a brilliant fight. I don't think he can ever change the result...Margarito is exactly the type of fighter made to beat Cotto. Boxers won't...nor will less powerful opponents, even with more skill. It's like Tszyu - the way to beat him is to run him over.

That said, I don't think Cotto helped himself by going to the ropes so much. That put him right at the end of alot of Marg's best shots - parried or not - and it allowed Margarito to get off even when getting hit.

Cotto should have employed tight circles at center ring. And in spots, tried to push Margarito back and/or force him to re-set. The few times he did this - Margarito couldn't adjust and was uncomfortable. Letting Margarito stalk you is a very, very tough fight to fight.

I also felt Cotto should have used his jab MUCH more than he did, and doubled and tripled up on it...vs single shots. When he used his jab, it had the effect of a power punch and stopped Margarito, who covers up and then resets to march forward.

Lastly...Cotto's body attack was simply absent. He needed to invest heavily in the body, especially early when Margarito hadn't yet picked up steam. Staying in tight circles at center ring would have allowed him to do that....and Tony doesn't react well there nor does he pivot and punch well at all.

I expected Miguel to fight off the back foot - I did not expect him to live on the ropes as much as he did...that is eventual suicide vs. Margarito.

But having said all that....I wasn't in there taking the shots, and Margarito simply bent Cotto to his will.

And I don't know if Cotto has the stamina to employ the tactics above...then again, he'd save himself alot of footwork - and he could sit on his shots more.

Margarito is the man. Great performance.

ANd NO - Floyd will never, ever fight him. He won't fight Cotto either - unless Cotto shows he's quite damaged.

Lastly - I am still perplexed at how many people continue to underrate Daniel Santos.

Peace.

 

Excellent post.

No surprise on Santos at all. God forbid he lose to a top flight fighter so we can hear endless rants of "You see, told you he sucked!"

 

Did this fight remind anyone else of Chico vs Freitas?

Cotto employed the same type of plan, to never stop moving. Until he tired and was taken out.

I was watching the fight with about 7 other guys and all we could say all night is "God damn Margarito is one tough fucker!"

 

Yeah...except Cotto is obviously a better boxer, and had Chico gotten hit with some of those shots....

Also, Corrales doesn't let his hands go quite like Margarito does. Diego looks for openings and pulls the trigger on his quick, short, heavy shots.....Tony will fire whenever and where ever he can, AT whatever he can. ::

But it sure had overtones of that fight, absolutely.

Peace.

 

Only way Floyd beats Margarito is to run like a bitch for 12 rounds. Floyd couldn't hurt Margarito if he gave him 10 free shots. He would walk Floyd down just like he did Cotto and Floyd would run just like Cotto. Oscar put his old man pressure on Floyd and nearly beat him. Margarito will put on twice the pressure and keep it up the entire fight.

Anyone who says it would b easy for Floyd is fooling themselves. NOBODY at 147 beats Margarito easy.

 

Floyd is so much more flat-footed these days. He really reminds me of Roy when he began slipping. Hard to notice because he was still kicking a** but the cracks were beginning. Being flat-footed would hurt him big time against Margarito.

 

"old man pressure" ::::

Agreed, btw.

 

good comparison

 

:nono: Aaaahhh, a wolf in a sheep suit perhaps?,..we'd better keep an eye on you,.....

...........:nono:

 

Why do you people keep acting as though Floyd is a afraid of challenges? Who started thsi ridiculous Myth?

Isn't Mayweather the same guy who fought Corrales, wen Chico was still undefeated and many people were picking Corrales to win?

Isn't Mayweather the same guy who moved up and fought teh consensus toughest Lightweight at the time...Castillo?

Isn't Mayweather the same guy who fought De La Hoya at 154lb when in Oscar's last fight he had destroyed with ease Ricardo Mayorga?

Isn't Mayweather the same guy who fought the undefeated hatton, after he manhandled Castillo?

Since when does Floyd duck challenges.

Dude..Mayweather WILL sign to fight this Margarito character...I'll sig bet you on this: that it will be signed BEFORE November...and will proceed to beat the hell out of him for 12 rounds.

 

i'm not sure if margarito beats floyd or not, but it would be the most difficult fight for floyd since his first fight against castillo. floyd also isn't the same guy he was then.

either way, who gives a fuck, this fight won't happen.

 

Surprised you haven't been in the bumping business since your recent victory :: I remember you getting ALOT of shit, what are you waiting for? :kidcool: