damn, Damn, DAMN!!!....

:stir: ...just feeling it out,...a little nibble here and there,..

 

I'm done celebrating. Sh*t, I couldn't even bring myself to pick Antonio. But I can't explain how good it felt - not to see Margarito win - but to see the crowd pulling and applauding his superhuman efforts. Never thought I'd see that in this fight.

 

You're really painting a picture with the DLH and Hatton fights.

You should be a promoter or a publicist...or at least a Crocodile-esque hype man.

 

Oscar was no 'risk'. That was a payday. No fighter in boxing would ever turn down a fight with Oscar.

 

Yeah, seriously. And then talking about the ease with which he dismantled Mayorga - as if that proves how "dangerous" Oscar was...ugh :shit:

 

But what about Corrales, Castillo? Not the actions of a no-risk taker!

 

That was 70 years ago.

 

Corrales - yes. And nearly every fight at 130, I'd say. Mayweather smashed a lot of cats there. And Bob Arum knew better than to put Morales or someone in there with him.

135? Ehh...no one knew Castillo was going to be that tough. I doubt even Floyd could've foreseen that. But still, you give credit where credit is due.

But since he left 135? Come on, dog. Floyd was on his way to ATG status - now it's just given to him. But the truth is, he's done the minimum since 2002.

 

Don't forget...Top Rank promoted both those shows and the Corrales match came to fruition sooner than planned simply because Diego had been charged and looked like he was headed to jail (where he headed up going).

I know there was hesitation to fighting Castillo in a rematch (Floyd was such an ass that it got yanked from the main event and placed on the undercard of a Klitschko fight) but I also thought there was some noise from Floyd about fighting Castillo the first time out.

 

This isn't true. At the time, there were plenty guys (including myself) talking about how good Castillo was. He was coming off that beautiful KO of Cesar Bazan.

I agree with what you've said though....Floyd pretty much ran in the Castillo rematch and went a few years without testing himself. Don't know anyone who gave Gatti a realistic shot at beating him, save for Italians.

 

And Peter. ::

 

Agreed. Castillo was viewed as legit and a top lightweight...and a very difficult fight for PBF in his first bout at 135.

Good to see you back, old man.

 

Damn! Margarito dismanted Cotto in even more impressive manner than I thoight!

 

I think that Margarto is all about conditioning and just does what he wants to when he gets in the ring, he doesn't seem really be thinking much strategy. That's why he can take so much and still be strong, all his work goes into getting into shape for the fight and not so much on what kind of strategy he wants to use in the fight.

 

Great post brotha Reed. Way to own up to your mistake. However make no mistake about it there will be plenty of fightbeaters eating crow after Roy Jones Jr smashes Calslappy to pieces. The funny thing is will the people claim that Calslappy was overrated, or that he fought a much bigger man, or that he never really healed from his sore fingernail. I'll Holla 5000

 

It's more likely they'll be pissing themselves with laughter after seeing a man get slapped into yet another two hour coma under the ropes.

 

I thought as such Dympeople,.. next up for Margarito, Floyd Mayweather, that sounds good doesn't it?.. :cheer: are you as hyped for Mayweather / Margarito as I am?...:cheer: ?

 

I just don't think Margarito wants any of Dzindziruk, Kauki, I just don't think he does.....

 

Well we know for a fact that Floyd called Margarito out directly after the fight, I never heard such a whisper from any white European fighters?, they might just be too far away to hear Dympeople?, so let us not show any concern for cowardly russian quitters, and let's see how Margarito responds to Floyd on these superior brave relevant American shores, it's got a hell of a potential, two blood and guts warriors going at it head to head, neither backing away, neither ever turning down a meaningful challenge,.. but hence, hence,....let us not get too excited,.. we'll see Margarito's responce to Floyd's challenge first, as he did regrettably, one must admit, duck Cotto to face Paul Williams and vice versa.

 

I don't know, Kauki......I don't know.....It seems to me that back when Dzindziruk schooled Santos, Margarito should've immediately gone after Dzindziruk, seeing as to how Margarito himself just doesn't seem to be capable of dealing with Santos.....

 

Dzrinkidz? who did you say fought Santos?.. I never saw that? where did it take place, in Florida?.. :doh: It's strange, I usually never miss atleast 'knowing' about a fight happening here on these brave and relevant American shores, which is the only place that matters as we agreed,.. never again will I watch... 'European boxing'.. as they call it,.. it's just a thorough dogpile of quittages strickenned from the record as we agreed, it's a different sport entirely, out of sight out of mind, so ...assuming Margarito agrees to fight Floyd,..where's it happening Dympeople?..West or East coast, the great ends of the earth......

 

You thought Margarito would catch up with Cotto late and stop him or win a decision and then picked... COTTO? :dunno:

 

He's always right after the fact.

 

:dunno::doh:ld:::

My point was I expected the boards to be much more split and in favor of Margarito than they were...and I thought that would be the prevailing logic.

I thought Cotto's skills would see him through to the end despite Marg's late surge and he'd win a split/majority decision in a debated outcome, where he banked most of the early rounds and at least 2 of the last 5-6 to take a close decision.

That's why I made that point.

Peace.

 

Would I be correct in saying that the fight turned out exactly as you predicted?

 

You should never, ever, ever, criticize anyone for 'fence-sitting' ever again. :nono:

And of course I was wrong - bloody, 11th-round-stoppage wrong. :crying:

 

No, you'd be in grevious error.

 

Thanks, Manny.

 

Why not? It's not as if I am guilty of doing it. I make picks. I didn't make a pick for this fight. Why? Because it was a pick'em and I really could not pick a winner and I said as much in the prediction thread.

You on the other hand are pulling an Emanual Steward. "I picked Cotto but I knew Margarito would win" :nono:

 

You sat on the fence. Plain and simple. Not the first time, either. I've seen you pull the "this is my pick but I wouldn't be surprised if X fighter won by doing x,y,z." :stir::stir:

I ALWAYS, ALWAYS make a pick. And I never pull a Manny. I will analyze what happened, sure.

On this particular fight though, I stated exactly what I was thinking...that Margarito would come on and win the late rounds but that Cotto would do enough to finish the fight and win it.

I expected more people to be saying that Marge would stop Cotto late - hence why I wrote what I did.

Welcome to the club. :mj:

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