Where does Judah go from here?

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  1. Hex-One

    Hex-One "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Is it finally over? :fightme:
     
  2. ILLUMINATI

    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    I REALLY DON'T GIVE A FUCK.....everyone giving Judah all this credit for showing heart..and determination then he tries to find the easy way OUT>...
     
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    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    Away.
     
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    MassaCure Undisputed Champion

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    fuck that tape max, its a headbutt, plus i cant see anyway, so how can i tell u what happen on the tape, im the people champ
     
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    Joe King WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Antwuan Maxx WBC Champion

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    I still think he could make some noise at 140. :dunno:
     
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    MassaCure Undisputed Champion

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    his back can make alot of noise hitting the canvas
     
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    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    Am I the only one who noticed how past it Zab looked? Not to discredit Clottey, but Zab's hand and footspeed is nowhere near what it once was.

    He'll get another shot. After Berto beats Forbes, I'm willing to bet we'll see Berto-Judah after that.
     
  9. Free Ike

    Free Ike WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Ridiculous. LMAO at Kellerman saying Zab was determined. The motherfucker quit. BTW, I thought Icouldn't destest a fighter more than Zab until I saw Clottey. He should never be on tv again. The guy makes Bernard Hopkins look like Aaron Pryor.
     
  10. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

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    team margarito had their fingers crossed for a judah win.
     
  11. Hex-One

    Hex-One "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    You bring up a very good point. I didn't see his blazing hand speed that he had before. I think it's over.
     
  12. Free Ike

    Free Ike WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Oh Jesus. Here we go again. Zab Judah was NEVER that good. He is an East Coast Media Creation. He lost almost every meaningful fight he was in. There is no reduction in skills. Zab is a fighter only a hip hoper could like he is all style and no substance. He still has fast hands and feet. He never had defense or heart or durability. When will you people learn. Zab is a flashy level fighter. Alway was and Always will be.
     
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    whiskey Czarcasm

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    I think you're missing the point entirely.

    This could affect Zab's street cred.
     
  14. Free Ike

    Free Ike WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    You are right. I thought the commission in Nevada fucked up by not reversing the decision. Now, the visiual evidence was bad as Zab's silence can attest, but the crowd knew, the crowd!! I think a tko for Zab is the correct result.
     
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    KaukipRrr "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Judah is a hypnotist, people are dazzled by his handspeed, 4 beatdowns and 3 years without a win later and I still doubt this latest disgrace will fix those affected, I look for Bob Arum, to sneak him in with Margarito, he knows more than anyone that Judah is extremely low risk - extremely high reward, and that's natural with Judah being the most overrated fighter today, maybe ever?...
     
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    Tyler Durden WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I say Mayweather should give him money so he stays out of boxing and doesn't further damage his legacy.
     
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    dsimon3387 WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Zab is/ was and will be for about a year more... a gatekeeper. A Brownsville Junkyard dog.... Zab di dhis job tonight and Margarito has no business fighting Zab if he beat Cotto anyway.

    Nice job Zab. Brooklyn in the house!!!! gettin its ass handed to it ny Guayanaaaaaaaa
     
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    Zab fought a much better fight then what I thought. I actuall thought that he would peter out after the 3rd or 4th round. So in that aspect I give him credit. How as far as Zabs status. I don't understand how he got this shot anyhow. Anyhow he's done as far as being a legit contenter.

    Quick question why and how can the refer to Margarito as thee 147lb champion especially when Paul Williams is still there? I'll Holla 5000
     
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    The guy with the faster handspeed and footspeed lost. I thought that wasn't supposed to happen?.. :dunno:
     
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    I agree completely. These two DEFINATELY need to rematch to settle it.
     
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    I agree as well. Cotto was never even close to being the real champion at 140 or 147. HBO just said he was the champion without any real argument. Williams lost and won again. Margarito lost to Williams and won again. If they fight, there is little arguement that the winner is the man. Margarito is not the man at 147. He beat the hype but not theman. In a way, Margarito's poor reputation as a fighter has helped him be seen as the man. The media feels guilty about knowing nothing about boxing.
     
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    KaukipRrr "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Agreed, if he wants to be irrefuteably 1, there's unfinished business with his big spiderly nemessis.
     
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    Zab Judah is a complete irrelevance and what he does from here shouldn't matter a jot.

    The only positive to take out of Judah not being KO-ed into retirement is that someone, somewhere will convince him that he still 'has it' and that he should fight again, which gives another prime opportunity to see him in his traditional big fight position; stetched out on his back, staring glassily up at the lights.

    MTF
     
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    Judah is nothing special at this point. He still has a alot of talent, but he's damaged goods who is only getting older not better.
     
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    I hear Witter is available for a rematch. Those two deserve each other right about now.
     
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    Retirement!

    Once Judah gets hit by a good flush punch,he doesn't know how to react. Then basically spends the rest of the fight back peddling just trying to survive till the end of the fight.

    He's pretty much been done as an elite fighter since his win over Spinks,and maybe even as early as the Tszyu fight.
     
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    He needs to erase the worst move of his career and go down to 140. Hell 135 if possible. Mosley showed that it's never to late to erase a mistake when he stopped campaigning at 154 and returned to a more effective weight for him. If Judah could realize that he needs to do the same then he wouldn't have to face monsters like Margarito, Williams, and Clottey who are too long, too durable, and too strong. If you come in against a Clottey weighing 143, you're in the wrong weight class. I mean really, what's the advantage in that?
     
  28. ILLUMINATI

    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    Okay..i'll play...

    I move down to 140...at this point he can beat RICKY HATTON..okay maybe not....but he can surely beat the shit out of Malignaggi....Witter...Holt...etc...

    Maybe not the other black kid that just beat Witter..though..
     
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    he should go to 140, beat a few top guys....and position himself to fight Hatton and Pacquiao in '09
     
  30. Azania

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    Call me what u want...but I'm gutted for this boy.Zab had all the necessary physical tools he needed to stake a claim in this era...I still remember the 1st round against Zoo...The physique...the speed...the power...he was all there that evening...all to end in disastrous and brutal fashion.

    I agree Zab should'nt have made it to the WW 147 division.The top tier WWs are just too big for him...I still remember the size disparity when he fought Cotto...

    His biggest weakness tho'...has always been his heart/mentality.And in this game...without it...you are not gonna get too far..

    Too bad too...cause this boy was as physically gifted as they come.

    IMO,he's done.
     

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