How much respect did you lose for Roy Jones Jr after the 3rd Tarver fight?

I don't need to elaborate further...
Although I'll say that when questioned about his effort or lack of, Jones claimed he didn't want his father getting credit so therefore he tanked the match. I think that's what he was claiming although not in those words. As if he purposely ripped off the public by fighting like a complete bitch against Tarver in a huge PPV fight.
How did you react at the time to Roy's effort and in hindsight, how do you feel now when looking back?

 

That's the 1 Time REED has EVER Walked Away from a Roy Jones Fight Feeling DISAPPOINTED...

The KO Losses Brought about a Sense of SADNESS, but the Condom Match w/Tarver was Undeniably DISAPPOINTING...

Roy was Clearly SPOOKED that Night...Tarver was the "Boogey Man", the Guy Roy & his Fans had NIGHTMARES about...Looking Back, just Getting N there w/Tarver was ADMIRABLE (Considering Roy was Coming Off the Glencoffe Loss AND a Looooooooong Layoff)...

He Certainly DIDN'T Come to Win that Night, but to Last the Distance...Roy was Tooooo AFRAID to Exploit the Opportunities he had to Put Some HURT on Tarver...

That Fight was the BEGINNING of Roy RESTORING his Confidence...From there Came Ajamu, then Hanshaw, then Tito...& if Roy Beats Calzaghe, as REED Thinks he Will, then REED Predicts we'll See a RE w/Glencoffe &/or a 4th Fight w/Tarver...

Yes, Roy Punked Out N the 3rd Tarver Fight, but @ Least he's CONTINUING to Fight...It's NOT like he's Resting on that Bout...


REED:mj:

 

Going in, I thought that fight was dangerous. I didn't think Roy should be fighting, thought there was a good chance he could be seriously hurt.

After the 3rd Tarver fight I vowed that I would never pay to watch Roy Jones ever again. We'll see if I can stick to that. ::

 

hmm....i view Jones as a different entity now, and i guess this fight was the confirmation that the old jones was no more.....thing is, it was there to see in flashes....he's too good for Tarver....i think it is round 5 when he opens up, and Tarver doesn't have any reply, he is utterly outclassed....but Jones just couldn't keep it up...that was sad

 

I lost a lot of respect for Jones in the 3rd Milk Dud match but I was more furious at the time because I thought Jones was done after that and, as Reed put it, was going to rest on his laurels, so to speak. But I admire what he is doing now getting in the ring with Calzaghe.... depending on how he does in that match he can gain a lot of it back with me.

And I am certain Jones will be happier knowing that I have a little more respect for him than before haha

 

What RJJ fan wasn't disappointed?

Roy could and should have won that fight with a little effort. I thought he was going to get laid out early by a jab. RJJ/Tarver 3 was probably the most terrifying fight for me as an RJJ fan. In round 5 I thought he was going to put Tarver away and regain his stature, but he didn't. I'll say it, he fought like a bitch and making excuses afterward made it even worse. I could have accepted him just surviving much easier if he didn't claim it was his dad's fault.ld:

 

I felt the same way when Zab Judah utterly outclassed Floyd for three rounds, he´s too good for Floyd, but he couldn´t keep it up. That was sad. BS. If Roy felt he was too good for Tarver, he shouldn´t have written his "I´m scared, Marian" letter. ::

 

I was watching James Toney-Dominick Guinn that night, so I wasn't as disappointed when I saw it, since I'd already heard all the criticism on how scared he fought.

I was a little disappointed when I heard, especially since I disliked Tarver so much, but I'd have been more disappointed if I'd watched it live and had been into it, especially after seeing the periodic success that Roy did have when let his hands go, particularly in round 5.

 

I heard some interesting things about what happened within Roy's team before and during the fight but nonetheless it wasn't a good night for Jones but....

He has come back with true fighting spirit, for if not how would you explain him willing to fight in relative obscurity (Ajamu, Hanshaw) in an effort to rebuild.

The man is 39 and rich, but boxing is in his blood and he's worked his way back to possible pole position with a win over Calzaghe, and man oh man what a comeback that would be.

 

Yes, it would be and it's what all RJJ fans are hoping for.

 

that 5th round always stands out for me. It was like Vintage Roy connecting combos and moving out of the way before Tarver could counter.

Roy showed he wasn't done physically which is why I was pissed.

I can understand a fighter going into a shell if he doesnt' have it. IN some level I can give him props for steping into the ring against a guy that had kod' him.

But Roy went in there to survive and lasting the 12 rounds was a moral win for him. Then the bullshit excuse involving his dad. Why bring in his dad in the first place?

 

I was only disappointed he didn't win....he clowned him pretty good in the middle of the fight, he just backed off :dunno: he got hurt and fought back late and made tarver look stupid again. So it wasn't as bad to me as it was to most....we knew he was shot going in anyway :dunno:

 

LMFAO @ that sig :laughing:

 

How much respect did i lose? Whhats 100% of zero?

 

A great deal. He fought like a cowardly BITCH!!

 

I flew to Tampa expecting one of two things to happen that night:

- Roy finds a way to beat Tarver, which would mark one of the more incredible comebacks in boxing history, coming back from consecutive brutal knockout losses and perceived shotness to beat the best light heavyweight in the world.

or

- Roy loses to Tarver, realizes he no longer has it and calls it a career.

That Roy fought the way he did made the trip a waste in and of itself (aside from getting to chill w/ Bigdawg and his friends). That Roy is still fighting today makes that fight even more of a waste of time.

 

Yeah, as far as I'm concerned, Roy owes me $50.

 

You cannot lose what you never had. I still don't see Roy's shotness. He is and always was a frontrunner. His ridiculous legion of loyal and homosexual fans bleated the mantra of superman and unbeatable. It was laughable. It is laughable. Roy is mentally weak. That is why he picked very carefully who he'd fight. He was terrified of Tarver and wrote letters not To fight him. Once Tarver destroyed the myth, Roy was done because his mind was weak. iMO, HE STILL has the fastest hands in boxing today. He just never had the capacity to overcome his ego.

Still, he could beat Calzaghe. What no one is mentioning is Joe is way, way declined as well. This upcoming fight is meaningless.

 

I was upset with Roy about that fight especially if he would kept doing what he was doing in the 5th round could of possibly took Tarver out. Jones excuses are joke too, I mean why take the fight if you are not fighting to win.

I was also upset with Tarver acting like this was the best RJJ we ever seen after the fight. Then a few months later, saying RJJ fought with his tail in his legs.

It's the bad thing about boxing in general that both fighters get paid win or lose. So a lot of times they don't try as hard especially during PPV fights that look a lot like sparring sessions now a days. I think they need to change it, that the winner get's the higher percentage and bonus, so that way more fighters will go for broke to win.

 

Agreed with the bold... but if you can't see how far he's slipped, I have to question if you've even been watching. And I know you have been.

 

Roy still has very fast hands, but so did Meldrick Taylor in 1994. People often say power is the last thing to go, but I don't necessarily agree, at least when it comes to the very fast handed fighters.

The decline is more in Roy's legs, stamina, and reflexes.

Watching the Trinidad fight, I saw him getting hit quite a few times with Trinidad jabs through the guard. I think Tito actually jabbed off the hook a couple times rather than vice versa and caught him. I have a tough time picturing a younger Jones getting hit by a Trinidad jab with any kind of frequency.

 

Every fighter had/has his ups & downs, it's just that Roy was on an up longer than anyone in history. As a result, he had the highest level of expectations ever placed on a fighter in the recent era. Case in point, I remember after the first Jones/Tarver fight I was depressed as a fan because it felt like the end of dominance....he won the fight with grit but in turn lost his incredible aura.

Yes, he fought too defensive in the third fight and you got the feeling that he could've done more, but a fighter's prime isn't only based on physical abilities but competitive state of mind. Roy had a long, long career & he essentially 'burned' out. People called for the end and Roy seemed to lean that way too judging by his post fight comments....but after sitting back for awhile Roy had a change of heart.

Now it's 2008 & Jones is on the comeback trail....apparently he's got more to say. The fight with Calzaghe is huge no doubt and everybody (Roy Jones' fan or not) will be watching to see if RJ can once again reign atop, where he did for so many years.

 

Both guys left the ring damaged.

Roy only fought two rounds (5 & 6) and Tarver basically laid off him. I've always described that fight as "one guy was afraid to get knocked out and the other was afraid to knock him out."

Roy never should have made it out of the 11th round. He was out on his feet. The round ended with Roy stalking Tarver, Tarver in full retreat completely winded.

For a brief second, I thought Roy was going to go for broke in the 12th and try to win the fight. he made no such effort.

He only wanted to survive.

 

anyone who can't see the extreme decline in jones jr. is foolish. the guy has been in decline for years, and he is about 30 % the fighter he was 8 years ago.

 

The fight was a disappointment for me, mainly because I know Roy had the ability to take Tarver especially when he opened up in the middle rounds.

However, Roy was still mentally effected from the knockout losses, its a shame though because I think Roy is tougher than a lot of people give him credit for. I say this, considering the fact he took a fight with Johnson only half a year after his first knockout loss against Tarver and got in the ring with Tarver again after getting KOd against Johnson. But the way he fought in the Tarver rubbermatch will haunt him and I can see why a lot of hardcore fans are very critical of him because of that fight.

I still think it shouldnt define him. Fans will never remember the first Tarver fight where an exhuasted Jones basically gutted out the championship rounds to take the fight. A lot of people say that was possibly Jones' worst fight and I can see where they are coming from, but at the same time it was one of my favourite Jones fights because it showed a side of Jones wev'e never had to see before.

 

so cotto got knocked out by a fighter as shitty as baldomir? :atu:

i remember after baldomir beat judah he called everyone out EXCEPT Margarito....

 

Slipped is one thing people are saying he is shot and I don't see it. I think his legs are slower but his hands are still the best in boxing. I don't think his stamina is bad either. He just is too terrified to get hit. Nerves drain you. He has no confidence and he never had much balls. I think Joe is further away from what he was than Roy is.

 

First Trinidad and Cotto are frauds, and now Roy is mentally weak. And you also say if Roy beats Calzaghe, its basically means nothing.

And you wonder why some give you hell.

 

I agree with what you posted. There is a correction and that is Roy took the fight 4 months after being stopped by Tarver. If you go back and look at his resume Roy hadn't taken a fight in 4 months in hella. So that was a pretty quick turnaround to get back into the ring. Anyways the 3rd Tarver fight was an extreme disappointment for. I flew my black ass all the way down to Tampa met up with my cousin, my childhood buddy, and Jake. We kicked it but big time however if Roy was gonna fight like that then he shouldn't have taken the fight. Now I was glad to that I got a chance to see my hero fight but I was still alittle hurt. However, I'm still p4p RJ's biggest fan/supporter. I'll Holla 5000

 

The fight means nothing. Trinadad and Cotto are frauds. That doesn't mean they aren't good fighters, although Trindad wasn't. They are not the all time greats you and yours made them out to be. I can't see how that is arguable.