Klitschko on Haye: "I want to fight him and shut him up"

I agree

Why is Klitchko even taking this clown seriously ??
He should fight Touch of Sleep, then afterwards a guy like Sam Peter before even thinking about stepping in with Wlad. Fact is , TOS will lay him the fuck out, and god forbod if he doesn't, then Peter will murder him. I'm tired of the Haye scam.

 

But that's just It...

If Eddie Chambers Invested N a Treadmill (or ANY Semblance of ROADWORK), he'd ALREADY B a Crusier...

Chambers IS NOT a Heavyweight...No More So than David Haye is...Sure, Chambers has GREAT Heavyweight Handspeed, but his Power is CRAP...He Makes Chris Byrd Look like Mike Tyson N the POWER Department...

David Haye has a FRAME that'll Carry the Extra Weight Better than Chambers Does, he's an INFINITELY SUPERIOR Puncher & his Handspeed ISN'T Much Slower than Chambers...

David Haye is BETTER Suited for Heavyweight Success than Eddie Chambers is, N REED's Opinion...



REED:mj:

 

Well, outside of a tape-delayed Showtime broadcast I'm not sure how much air time he's received (in the States).

I fail to realize Klitschko's percieved weakness?

I'm plenty aware of Klitschko's perceived weakness...all I have to do is remember all the Briggs talk not too long ago. :: (j/k)

His perceived weakness is brought up in just about ever discussion there is of him.

BTW, if you picture Haye in that Brewster role, you really have a lot of faith in Haye's punch resistence, as I don't think it's anywhere near Brewster's.

I just find it ironic that in order for Klitschko to shed this "protected" label in your mind, he has to fight a fighter who needs to be protected in order to make it to that fight.

 

You think Haye has defense and counter-punching abilities are anywhere near that of Chambers?

Chambers stood in front of Povetkin with a high, tight defense and was able to counter with fast, short punches in the early rounds. Povetkin still clearly outworked him over the stretch of the fight (he may or may not have been fighting a cold).

Also, while you're talking about Chambers not being a heavyweight...he's actually fought some legit heavyweights...Haye still hasn't.

So, no, they're not on the same level in the division.

I wouldn't mind seeing Haye fight Chambers, though, to be honest. That's a solid test for him.

 

Well said
Haye hasn't shown fuck all, as far as I'm concerned hes a lower top 50 heavyweight.

 

LoL Haye got KO'd by a 40 year old blown-up light heavyweight.

 

Lets all pray that Haye lays this joke of a "champion" out cold! I dont think he can, but I'll sure have my fingers crossed.

 

And Wlad got KO'd by Ross Purrity, a golfer, and by Cliff Ettiene's son. So they're more than even.

 

Klitschko's been knocked out by a cruiserweight?

 

Except that Wlad is a dominant heavyweight champ and Haye hasn't stepped in with a top 100 heavyweight or any heavyweight in years for that matter. Oh yeah and Wlad hasn't been KO'd by a 40 year old midget so even in that regard they aren't even.

 

By "Success", REED is Speaking of Winning a TITLE @ Heavyweight...Can YOU Honestly See Eddie Chambers WINNING a Title @ Heavy???...REED Certainly CAN'T...

Dude is FAT yet UNDERsized!!!::....AND, he CAN'T Punch a Lick...Cory Spinks, Sergio Mora AND Winky Wright All ARGUABLY Hit HARDER, Lb 4 Lb...Granted, Chambers HASN'T Shown a Bad Chin, but Chambers ALREADY Possesses 3 Out of 4 NEGATIVE Heavyweight Qualities...

REED CANNOT Fathom a SMALLISH, PUDGY Heavyweight w/LESS than Zero POWER Being A Heavyweight Champion...There's NO Scenario REED Can Think of, where he Envisions Chambers WINNING a World Title...

& B 4 U or Anybody Else References Chris Byrd, he WASN'T Fat, had Perhaps a SMIDGE More Power & CONSIDERABLY BETTER Defense & Footwork (N his Prime)...Povetkin Caught Byrd @ the RIGHT Time (Not Saying he would Necessarily LOSE to PRIME Byrd though)...

U're RIGHT, Chambers is a More ACCOMPLISHED Heavyweight, but if REED Ranked his REALISTIC CHANCES of WINNING the Heavyweight Title, he'd Place them LOWER than David Haye's Chances of WINNING the Heavyweight Title...

Haye Brings ADEQUATE Heavyweight Size, CONDITIONING & Genuine POWER...Even IF his Power DIPS @ Heavy, it'll B MUCH More than ANYTHING Chambers Packs N his Gloves...& the SPEED Difference btwn the 2 ISN'T All that Much Either...


REED:hammert:

 

even if that were to happen, i don't think it would necessarily be a good thing. there are several other heavies that would knock haye out.

haye's chin sucks.

 

Chambers is shorter than I am. If he really wanted to, he could make light heavy easily.

I think Haye's power will improve at heavyweight. He was having trouble making 200lbs for about two years at least.

 

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i hope the HAYEMAKER knocks the gay german robot the F out!

we need to get this gay germans out of here.. send robot ass back to germany where he can run a resturant or something

 

Haye is annoying as hell, but some of the stuff he's been saying, while very egotistical, are true.

 

Who has Wlad fought? No hopers. Chris Byrd and Lamon Brewster on their last legs. Ray Austin, Sultan Ibragimov and Tony Thompson? With the exception of Sam Peter he hasn´t touched a fighter with offensive skills or dangerous physical attributes. Who is currently in the top ten by ring magazine? Nicolay Valuev, Wladimir Virchis, Alex Povetkin, Ruslan Chagaev, John Ruiz, Chris Arreola.
How many has Wladimir fought? ONE!!! Not that Tony Thompson shouldn´t be ranked ahead of Arreola, but still...

At least Haye was the undisputed champ, and he didn´t unify fighting like a pussy.

 

How in the world is Arreola on your list? He's done what, exactly?

And you include Povetkin even though indications from Klitschko is that he plans to fight him next...and then the "dangerous" Haye after that (in Britain).

Valuev, Chagaev, Ruiz....do you work for the WBA? Ruiz hasn't been relevent since losing back to back fights to the other two (even if the one to Valuev was controversial), Chagaev's found it almost as hard as Vitali to make it into the ring (including the pull out from the uni with Ibragimuffin), and Valuev, his best win, to date, is what...a win over a washed up White Wolf?

If you want to pick apart heavyweight resumes, there's better places to start than Klitschko's.

 

dsimon writes:

Ok let me modify my point to make it less complex. I am not saying Klitschko is protected... you know what? really? forget about Klit and his brother, again, overly complex BS....As a matter of fact, I am not really even saying anything about Klitschko... truth be told. Klitschko is an organism like any other... he will maintain an adequate work rate to be rewarded in his task with the least amount of effort.

Klitschko accordingly is no different than... oh lets say Reed! I don't think Reed will go chasin bulls to get a steak tonight when Safeway is around the corner... and who will?

No... this has nothing to do with Klitscko it has to do with Heavyweight prizefighting. Yes I trumpeted Briggs because when he threw it Brigg's had a punch. Its important. Haye as well. guys with a punch have a gift, they are in demand right now in this division. and you and the other clowns can ignore that but it is a fact. Its why the division sucks right now. Sam is the only guy who can crack aside from Vlad.

To respond to the other points: Klit has faultered against punchers thats a fact. And my point in bringing Brewster up was that he should have been matched better and been trained to use his gifts better.

But you guys will go on and pretend that Povkin can threaten Vlad without a punch, and that a cruiser weight with a punch can't a heavyweight make... Go ahead cause you all know you would rather see Vlad mix it up with a puncher and there is no basis in fact to assume how Haye, as a heavy will do against a puncher.... only an entree into the division will tell.

I really don't believe anyone on this board who says they would rather see Vlad fight another feather fist than Haye. Yall is full o shite' :notallthere:

 

White Wolf? Is that the guy, who beat up Brewster for Wlad, so Wlad could actually find the guts to fight him again? Wlad´s record is perfectly constructed with washed up has been and gutless midgets. It seems he has bought himself a free pass with his win over Sam Peter, who has proven himself to be barely better conditioned than Jameel McCline, who was taken to school by the irrelevant John Ruiz.

The undisputed cruiserweight champion wants a title shot against the perceived best heavyweight, but somehow some people are against it. The biggets fight in the heavyweight division since Lewis vs. Vitali. :bangh:

 

dsimon writes:

And now let me address some other baloney:

1) Chris aereola: Sorry you cannot be a heavyweight badass when your name refers to the rosy ring around a woman's niple area. I CAN accept a Mexican heavyweight, specially in this division.... but with a name like fernando, scrotum or aeriola? no fuckin' way!

2) Haye's chin... Lets see what happens with it when he puts some weight on. Period. Why wait? We know there are a few heavyweights that can probably outbox Haye. Let the guy on his championship status move up and challenge another champ... Klit the gay German Robot for example! Now there is a good match! Golly gee Lok has a point!

Right now there is no doubt in my mind that Haye would lose to Povtkin, Toney and probably some of the other Eastern Euro feather fists. So yeah he can be outboxed.

On the other hand Haye and Peter would be a great fight. One of them would go down. Peter has a good chin and Haye has the punch to test it. If nothing else let these two fight and the winner gets the klit.

 

dsimon writes:

:::laughing:

 

And what will the reaction on this board be if Klitscko blows Haye out in a manner similar to the way Haye blew out Maccarinelli?

What if that happened before he fought Povetkin?

I think Povetkin has a significantly better chance of beating Klitschko than Haye does.

 

The biggest fight where?

 

Yeah, you don't want to see him knocked out.

 

On planet earth. :cheer:

 

If they are quick enough to hit him, you are correct. Haye is chinny; no doubt about it...

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This is based on what, exactly?

 

Based on the fact that:

a. Klit is the consensus No.1 at HW
b. Haye is the undisputed CW No.1
c. HW fights mean more than any other division in the eyes of casual boxing fans by MILES

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