olympic scoring sucks

I'm watching early coverage of the olympics, and idk what these judges are watching. For some reason, clean punches to the face don't seem to be landed blows. I mean the match-up that just happened between two african guys, one from Nigeria and the other from ghana, the score ended up being 7-3, even though the winner had landed a good 50 punches, many of them to the body.

I just don't understand how this shit works apparently, because certain guys seem to be getting credit for landing good shots, whle others land the same stuff with no points awarded.

 

Olympic boxing is complete and utter trash, I hate it. Crappy scoring and crappy fights with pitty pats and running.

 

Totally agree, it's garbage. Fucking tag except worse - a game of tag where you have to clearly SHOW at least 2 other people sitting at different angles that you've tagged rather than just tagging! It precludes any subtlety.

And worse, am I the only one with a suspicion that it's beginning to take it's toll on the pro scene? I see allot less clever infighting, allot more blocking and moving out of range rather than subtle slipping, less body punching etc in young fighters. And is it a coincidence that the guys who usually show those qualities generally had limited amateur backgrounds? Maybe Im being paranoid.

 

I don't know where I heard that, so I may be wrong, but I heard that judges in the olympics push a button when they see a scoring blow, the majority of them has to push the button within a certain timeframe for it to count. Since they aren't sharing the same perspective for the whole fight a lot of clean punches aren't counted.

 

yeah i think 2 out of 3 have to push the button within three seconds of each other.

 

This is correct.

 

Yep, but I think it's even less than three seconds.

 

Sure, the System BLOWS, but it's All we've Got, Fellas...

Over Time, Olympic Judges have PROVEN to B Mostly INEPT (or Blatantly UNfair) @ Objectively Judging Fights N the Traditional Form...

It's TEDIOUS, INaccurate & it DISTRACTS from the Fight, but U RARELY See a Guy Complaining After a Loss Under this Particular Scoring System...The Final Scores R Always LOWER than the Actual Amount of LANDED Shots, but the System IS Pretty GOOD N Pointing Out the WINNER...

But Yeah, it SUCKS...

It Takes Focus OFF the Fight when U're Staring @ the Bottom of the Screen, to Check Out the Score...Boxing is MEANT to B WATCHED Uninterrupted, for the Duration of a Round...

& U Almost NEVER See Bodypunches or Combinations Scored...


REED:hammert:

 

It is a different sport guys. You have to change your perception. You will only get upset thinking they should score it like the pros.

 

I don't have to change anything. I just don't watch it.

 

for me its not even that. I mean I watched some Irish guy fight at around 2 AM, and he won 20-2, and his opponent clearly landed 10-15 punches directly to the face with the white part of the glove.

its shitty.

 

Yeah and the other guy scores a KD as well. What does he get for it? 1 point. I turned over at that point. They've basically neutered the sport to sanitize it and align it with the whole bullshit wanky Olympic ideology.

 

Unless there's a PERSONAL Interest N a Particular Fighter, REED Uses Olympic Boxing More as a REFERENCE Tool...

It's Fun Digging Up Ammy or Olympic Fights of Guys when they're PRO's, just to See how Much their Style Has or HASN'T Changed Over the Years...& It's a Whole NEW Crop of Guys that we'll B Discussing on THIS Very Board N a Few Years...

But Having Said that, REED Definitely CAN'T Spend an Entire Day Watching Olympic Boxing...U've Gotta Watch that Shit N SPURTS...
REED:hammert:

 

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I watched that fight too- I couldn't believe the final score, it was ridiculous.

I still watched on, though. Boxing is boxing, and I'd rather watch some odd lil ammy fight than fucking equestrian...:bangh:

MTF

 

Did you notice that it was Julian Jackson's son in there and the man himself in the corner! The clueless commentators didn't even mention it....presumably because Jackson never fought at the Olympics himself and so who gives a shit? If the guy in the corner had won a bronze in 1976 for fucking ping pong I bet they would have talked it up right through the fight.

 

The success of amateurs that have been turning pro have been declining steadily. The 2000 olympic class must be one of the worst. 2004 may be looking even worse than that.

 

Shit man, I didn't!!! :doh:

I heard the name (Julius Jackson?) and thought it was very close to 'The Hawk', but I didn't notice...::

Wasn't he from the British Virgin Islands or some remote outpost? Is that where Jackson comes from?

MTF

 

Yes, Jackson has been doing very well with his fighters down there. He's a terrific person to talk to and still very passionate about the game.




And with olympic scoring, 3 out of the five judges have to hit the button within one second of eachother in order to register a blow.

If you thought the scoring in the fight between the Irish kid against Jackson's kid was bad, you should have seen the chineese light heavy's fight. Final score was 3-1. :: Meanwhile, he was hit with three huge bombs in the second, and didnt get a point scored against him. THAT was blatently obvious bias.

 

Allowing for a KD being a single point, which is rubbish anyway, Jackson was clearly outpointed by the Irish guy. Great to see the Hawk working the corner though.

 

That Irish kid has the best fans.

"Oh yeah, that's everyone from the bar."

 

the irish guy clearly won, but I mean 20-2 was ridiculous, and I watched two rounds of the chinese guys match before just going to sleep. It was just bad, and its a shitty system

 

dsimon writes:

I would rather masturbate to pictures of Sly with sandpaper gloves than watch an Olmpics hosted by the Imperial Hans.

AS the fat Hawain said the deline of Olympic boxing is painfully obvious.

Fuck Beijing, fuck the poor excuse that is this class of Olympians and the stupid judging.

 

I don't believe this is correct.

 

I like Olympic boxing and I think its scoring accomplishes what it tries to accomplish very well.

It isn't about landing clean with the white part on a scoring area.
It never has been about that with computer scoring.

It's about landing hard, clean, and obvious shots to the head or body. Yes, body shots score and always have.

It is very uncommon for the 'wrong' guy to win. Yes, lots of shots that land don't get scored, but that is the nature of the beast, and it rarely ever screws a fighter.

Pro scoring is far more subjective and results in far more 'bad' decisions.
I prefer pro scoring, but amateur scoring is far more appropriate and far better at meeting its goal of having the better fighter win.

 

I don't know about the Scotland feed, but on our side of the pond Bob Papa and Teddy Atlas made several references of the relationship during the fight, including Teddy's pondering whether or not Julius boasted "any of his father's gifted one punch power." (or something to that effect).

Julius' brother John Jackson fights tonight in the opening round of the welterweight bouts

 

whats not to believe about it?

Taylor and Lacy are probably the most successful members of the squad, yet in November they'll be facing each other in a loser leaves town match.

We've already seen the best of Brian Viloria, Rocky Juarez, Jose Navarro and Calvin Brock, and it's hardly a compliment.

Dante Craig's been a journeyman almost as long as he's been a pro. Ditto for Clarence Vinson. A sliver of hope remains for Ricardo Williams Jr. David Jackson's career has basically been a non-starter, same for Olander Anderson. Michael Bennett never even made it out of the gate.

Four years in, nobody from the 2004 class has yet to even establish themselves. Andre Dirrell and Andre Ward are now coming into their own on the prospect level, but considerably behind schedule compared to the best members of past Olympic squads. Vanes is a step below them, still in dire need of a step up fight.

Escobedo once had promise, but is now completely gun shy and quite possibly sees his next career loss come next month when he gets fed to Dominic Salcido.

Rock Allen's been stuck on stupid, to where he fights in virtual anonymity. Devin Vargas is still stuck on the club level, and it'd be a shock if Jason Estrada becomes anything more than an ESPN2 regular.

 

I'd like to use this Croatia Samoa match that's on right now as evidence of what I'm talking about. The Croatian guy is up 6-1 on pitty pat slaps/jabs, and now a penalty, while the samoan has landed multiple clean left hooks directly to the face that haven't counted. Not to mention that I've seen one body punch point in the last 4 fights combined.

 

They should change it so the scores end up being higher somehow. It's kind of crappy to watch them exchange and only 1 point given.

 

Wow he just got knocked the FUCK out.

 

Damn. That samoan guy pulled a Trevor Berbick and Zab Judah at the same time and for longer.