Couture vs. Lesnar, then Fedor?

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Sources: Couture vs. Emelianenko targeted for early 2009

by MMAjunkie.com Staff on Aug 30, 2008 at 5:30 pm ET
The long-rumored heavyweight superfight between UFC champion Randy Couture (16-8 MMA, 8-5 UFC) and WAMMA champion Fedor Emelianenko (28-1 MMA, 0-0 UFC) is currently being discussed for an as-yet-unspecified date in January or February of 2009.

Sources inside Couture's Xtreme Couture camp today informed MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) of the ongoing negotiations between the UFC and both fighters.

The fight is far from a done deal. Many of the same issues that prevented Emelianenko from signing with the UFC during previous negotiations must still be ironed out. But it appears that the UFC and representatives for both Couture and Emelianenko are working toward bringing the two legends together for a long-awaited bout.

Additionally, the same sources are reporting that Couture is currently "actively training for a fight."

Couture has remained in shape throughout his self-imposed 12-month layoff, but his workouts are now reportedly being geared toward an apparent upcoming bout.

Adding to previous speculation that Couture's return may be on Nov. 15 at UFC 91 against Brock Lesnar, Xtreme Couture is also reportedly making travel arrangements to bring in several "larger heavyweights" as sparring partners for Couture.

Sources indicate the Emelianenko bout is contingent upon Couture defeating Lesnar in November.

MMA Rated first reported the possibility of Emelianenko as Couture's second opponent after Lesnar. That report also stated that the UFC hopes to make an announcement regarding a new contract with Couture as early as Tuesday.



--Well lets hope it's true. Was from junkie, which is usually pretty accurate. The Heavyweight division just might start to get really interesting.

 

Lesnar just got his first win and they are going to put him in with Couture? That's stupid.

 

Guys, Couture is in all probability done, you just dont come back from that long a layoff at his age ( though I said the same thing before he fought Silvya), especially vs a big, physical guy like Lesnar. Career wise, he really blew it by not fighting even thought I understand and agree on why he did it.

 

Or the time off could of helped him.

 

not at 45

 

fight fedor and get your ass kicked already randy

please

 

Pretty Much

 

Randy won't make is past Lesnar. Very bad styles match up for Randy. Brock mauls him.

 

Damn. You think so? When I think of the match-up it screams mismatch, but you have a point.

Isn't Randy just way f'n better?

 

Randy has had trouble with big guys who can wrestle. Check out his fights with Rico and Barnett. Guys who can just out muscle him give him trouble. He's really good at controlling guys, but he will not be able to do that with Lesnar. I think Lesnar will prove just too big and strong for Randy. Especially coming off a year layoff. I just can't imagine Randy trying hs dirty boxing fromt he clinch and I REALLY can't see him taking Lesnar down.

 

Well...it's official.

http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/09...n-of-randy-couture-vs-brock-lesnar-at-ufc-91/

TFK

 

What's your take on the fight TFK? Lesnar or Couture?

 

Gun to my head, I gotta pick Lesnar. Lesnar has a huge size and strength advantage, and Randy is a small heavyweight. We saw what happened when Liddell hit Couture, and Lesnar, as we've seen, hit's a lot harder then Liddell.

Couture's biggest asset has always been his wrestling, and it's gonna be hard for him to outwrestle Lesnar. Not impossible, but with the size difference, very hard.

The way to beat Lesnar is to sub him like Mir did, and Randy, with only 2 wins by submission in his career, just isn't a submission fighter.

Couture's only shot is to stay away from Lesnar and take him into the deep waters of the 4th and 5th rounds, and hope he gasses. Then it might be possible for him to sink on a choke or something, but it's gonna be hard to put him away.

I'm as big a fan of Couture as anyone else, but the guy is way overated. His record is 16-8, and when you take away the title wins, that's very ordinary. He's a great story because he's beaten the odds at an age when he shouldn't be, but he's very beatable. Probably now more then ever.

This is a Win\Win situation for the UFC though. If Lesnar loses, it's to a UFC legend and their champion, so it's excusable, but if he wins, he gains legitimacy from everyone except the few who just won't let his WWE past go, no matter what he does.

UFC's best case scenario is for Lesnar to beat Couture, and Mir to beat Nog, setting up a HUGE rematch for the undisputed title that would probably do record numbers.

TFK

 

I think it's going to be ugly for Randy. His strength is wrestling and being able to control guys. His stand up might be better than Brock's but that is still a mystery. Like you said, Couture is no submission guy, if he was he'd have a far better chance. I think Lesnar is going to destroy Couture. I just can't see it any other way. He'll take Randy down at will and his control is just crazy. I think he'll even throw in some sub attempts unlike the Herring fight.

 

I forgot, people wonder if Brock can take a punch. Have you ever seen a guy with a head and neck the size of Lesnar's who had a glass jaw? I can't recall one. It's usually guys with thick necks and block heads that can take a beating.

 

ONE win and he's fighting the champion:laughing:

 

I am by no means defending the fact that a guy that is 2-1 is getting a title shot. BUT, would you rather they build him up against some bums the way they are doing with Kimbo so he can have a gleaming undefeated record when he does get those high profile fights? This is a strange situation, it's not as if Lesnar is just sopme dude off the street, he has a great wrestling background and seems to really want to prove himself against the best guys available. As much as this feels like a freakshow, I really fancy Lesnar's chances here. I fully expect him to earn his respect the hard way.

Think about it, MMA is as much about ratings as boxing. We've got Pac vs Oscar which will most likely be the most viewed PPV ever. Is that any better? It's all about the money, that's the bottom line.

 

From MMAWeekly....

TFK

 

Dana White has announced it.....it's happening

http://www.fightnewsextra.com/cc/ufc91/01.htm

......giving it all the UFC hyberbole as usual, but this is an intriguing one.....Lesnar, so inexperienced.....Couture at the other end of the scale, of course giving size away as well as youth

I'm no MMA expert, but from what i seen, as long as Courture hasn't slipped too much.....surely he has too much know how?

 

This matchup sucks. Whoever wins this is going to be hyped beyond belief. They both already are. Somehow, Couture goes from getting his ass kicked by Chuck Liddell, to somehow becoming the number two heavyweight in the world by beating Sylvia and Gonzaga. Brock showed some promise in the Herring fight, now people are all over his nuts. Herring showed that he is susceptible to wrestlers, and is overall a very inconsistent fighter. It doesn't matter who wins, the hype is going to be ridiculous, and I'm already sick of hearing about Couture and Lesnar. Kimbo too...

 

Couture isn't a former world champ, he is the world champ. As far as I know they never stripped him.

 

He is still the Champ. Big Nog is the interim champ. Mir will face Nog and the winner with face the winner of Couture and Lesnar.

I think it comes down to Nog and Lesnar. I just really can't see how Couture can beat Lesnar. He's just better at what Randy does best and that is wrestling. Randy may be a great wrestler, but he is very small for a HW and Lesnar is as big as a man can get and still make 265.

 

Randy is the current champ. They gave Nog the interim title.

Randy/Lesnar is going to be for the UFC Heavyweight Championship.

 

The UFC heavyweight division is butt cakes...and lets be real here Brocks getting a title shot because of his name and that's BS IMO,he will get serious backlash if he wins.

 

imagine if Coture KO's Fedor and then shits in his mouth!! he'll go down as a LEGEND!

 

LOK, tell everyone that story about how you went to an exhibition where Royce Gracie was giving a seminar and then you stepped up to Royce and challenged him to a boxing match and Royce laughed at you and said "We fight no rules", and then you backed out cause you were afraid Royce would take you down and cum in your asshole. Tell everybody that story. That's how it went down wasn't it?

 

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actually that is not what "went down" at all Hanzy:: you crack me up with this shit