Floyd Snr to train Hatton

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  1. who?

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    The story is on the bbc website, which means its true. He'll start for the paulie fight.
     
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    ... but will be pulled once Oscar is ready to begin training for the Pacquiao fight.
     
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    This was actually rumored when Hatton split was first announced.

    Should be interesting.
     
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    Yeah, that's the first thing that popped in to my mind. DLH/Pac is what... two week after Hatton/Paulie?
     
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    Awful pairing. Imagine Hatton shelling up on the back foot and shoulder rolling? :shit:
     
  6. mikE

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    It will certainly provide some insight into their abilities to adapt.

    I think Hatton will be too much for Malignaggi no matter who is in his corner, but what may come out of this pairing is Hatton getting some idea of the philosophy behind Jr.'s style, i.e. when to counter, how, where to place punches, etc.
     
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    I don't like this choice for Hatton. Is he going to try to get Hatton to fight more defensively? If anything it's going to confuse Hatton's aggressive style and make it less effective. Hatton is a mauler, his defense is that he's in your face, anything else will make his less effective. I think he's losing to Paulie no matter what anyway though.
     
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    Paulie is gonna school him regardless.
     
  9. Barristan

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    lol...I would love to see Floyd train Hatton it would be a trip
     
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    :lol::bears:
     
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    Hatton and Floyd sr. makes no sense to me. Hatton is damn near shot anyway kind of late to improve his defense.
     
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    You guys don't seem to understand. Look, Hatton is tired of being hit in the face, it's why he started becoming a John Ruiz knockoff and why he hasn't been nearly as effective or exciting as he used to be. I say he should learn a little defense if that's going to stop all his damn clinching. Hatton is skilled but I think he could use a bit more seasoning in boxing fundamentals. His career and style has basically stalled and he needs to do something like this to right the ship.

    Floyd did an outstanding job with Bojado. Even though I thought Bojado's original style suited him better the improvement and changes that Bojado showed were drastic and a direct reflection of how good a trainer Floyd is. Hatton is probably still young enough to learn some new things which I think Oscar wasn't.
     
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    It doesn't strike me as being a good pairing, but it depends how they approach it.....at this stage in Hatton's carrer, a radical change in style won't happen, and any attempt to do so would be detrimental.....but Mayweather will be able to give him a few pointers, especially defensively.....whether Mayweather has the restrain to do only this is another matter

    what is also a concern, as a hatton fan, is the trainging regime itself....what Hatton has done with Graham, alongside Kays, is intense and is as much, if not more, about getting Hatton's weight down as it is based on technical improvements.....this regime has to understand that, and can't remove focus from that primary objective....as we know, as a result of Hatton's guiness-happy lifestyle Hatton is very tight at 140

    we'll see how it plays out, and who knows?....it could play out to be an inspired decision.....but Billy Graham to Floyd Mayweather, IMO represents a big alteration in approach and preperation for a +40 fight fighter who aint got much left in the tank
     
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    I agree with a lot of this, but I'm not sure how much help Sr. or anyone else can be at this point.

    Hatton's style has become very ugly and boring to watch, in marked contrast to many of his earlier fights. A few years ago, Hatton had a good, hurtful jab, excellent footwork and footspeed, a very good chin, quick hands, devestating body punching and a good defence. Now, he looks cumbersome, had completely neglected his jab in favour of that stupid lunging lead left hook and his ability to slip punches with head movement and his feet have almost gone entirely.

    IMHO, this is a combination of a step up in class of opponents and because he is, due to his loss to Floyd and his lifestyle, borderline shot (or arproaching something close to it).

    The Lazcarno fight was very telling, I thought. Sure, the loss to Floyd you can understand as having been beaten by a much better fighter, but Lazcarno hit and hurt Hatton more than Kostya Tszyu did. Hatton, for the first time really, looked like he was lacking in confidence, looked very hittable against an old and shot opponent, and looked brittle around the whiskers.

    I seemed clear to me that Hatton just doesn't want it anymore. The Floyd loss took more than just his '0'- it took his will to go through the pain anymore.

    The only reason Hatton is fighting on is because he doesn't want to end up like Naseem Hamed- loses the biggest fight of his career and then wraps it all in. I think he knows that the nauture of the Floyd loss will give detracters plenty of ammo to pick apart his career if he just calls time now, just as Hamed has had since MAB beat him. He figures that if he wins his old belt back, he can retire and spend all of that lovely cash he has made, having come back from his only loss to regain his old title and retiring as WC.

    I think he still has too much for Paulie, but I have no real confidence in that pick now, even though Paulie hardly looked great on the Hatton-Lazcarno undercard. I'm not sure that Floyd Sr. or any other trainer can do anything for Ricky at this stage of his career.

    MTF :dunno:
     
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    When they should really employ Usain Bolt :lol:

    It will be interesting to see if he can improve Hatton
     
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    Billy Graham, who was sacked in July after 11 years as Hatton's trainer, criticised the move. “I think it's ludicrous,” Graham said. “I'm not saying he's not a good trainer, but it's outrageous. He's not the trainer for Ricky Hatton.”

    Jelouse? lol
     
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    perhap, but he can be forgiven for feeling bitter......but i think he's right
     
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    dsimon writes:

    Its an interesting proposition actually. Right or wrong this change will be worth watching.

    I always look at boxing through the prism of being a martial artist and in the martial arts if your teacher says "we are working on countering techniques today" you cannot say "sorry sensei but thats not my style of fighting." :lol:

    The point is that Ricky is reengaging the learning curve, shopping for some tricks to get him over his brawling ways... and it will be interestong to watch the results of this.

    When we truly stop learning we are dead and 'Ricky is not dead. Thpugh the comments on this thread have been spot on about the possible problems with this courtship between Ricky and family.
     
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    Post scriptum to the above post:

    The irony of this situation!!!!

    Look at the family dynamics of this situation. Flloyd comes from a background where everything is out in the open... hell youcan watch the mayweathers fight on national TV!!!

    Meanwhile Ricky's family in very subtle fashion has in some ways treated Ricky like a golden goose while always allegedly acting in his best interests...

    I think this aspect of the dynamic between Mayweather and Hatton is golden. Ricky may realize through Mayweather that his own family is insidious in some respects. Say what you want about any of the Mayweathers but one thing is for certain.... they are upfront about how they feel about each other and aby issues that arise.
     
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    Good post.
     
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    If this is true, it is a ridiculous idea. Floyd senior is perhaps the worst trainer in history. Two, his style is all wrong for Hatton but you all have said that. The one time I agreedwith Big George was when e said without Mayweather DLH would have kayo'd Vargas sooner. I agree.
     
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    Hatton should retire. I just hope he KTFO Malignaggi first.
     
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    This is fucking horrible. Hatton is who he is. Fighters kills me they lose. Hell his past trainer got him to the 140lb champion and got him a belt at 147 what more could you ask for. This is such a bad mix. Im really excited about how this shit will play out. Dumb ass move by Hatton. I'll Holla 5000
     

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