"This time the outcome will be very different"-Miguel Cotto

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"This time the outcome will be very different"-Miguel Cotto

BRING ON MARGARITO! Former Puerto Rican champion Miguel Cotto welcomed yesterday a rematch against the Mexican Antonio Margarito for the title of the association Welt World Boxing (AMB) and already promised that the outcome in the second clash will be very different. Cotto said that a second meeting before Margarito was a logical step, but assured that this time the victory will be celebrated By Puerto Rico!

Thoughts?


I think Cotto takes the rematch! Cotto has the talent to beat Margarito with a few technical changes. The question is can he execute a game plan for 12 rounds? Stamina can be improved and sometimes a fighter can learn alot from defeat.


WAR COTTO!!!!!!!!!!!!:hammert:

 

i'd like Cotto to win,

we might have one of the great trilogys here

funny thing is.. Floyd could whup either of these guys

 

Cotto should be way more aggressive in a rematch.

 

cotto will never beat margarito.

 

I think Cotto needs to fight with controlled aggression. He can't run around the ring that's for sure. Miguel is going to have to stay off the ropes and circle around Margarito rather then running around the ring. Cotto has the talent and I believe with a few changes he will beat Margarito. I also want to point out Cotto has to go to the body. Even if it's hard jabs to the pit of the stomach. He needs to find a way to stop Margarito from walking him down.:hammert:

 

I get the sense that Cotto needs to hire Papa Trinidad to wrap his hands, maybe he will be able to hurt Margarito then. or he needs to put on 20 pounds after the weigh-in like Santos. hell just get santos to subsitute for cotto.

have to eat some more crow - never thought margarito would have proven me so wrong to have to create those outlandish circumstances necessary for cotto to beat him.

 

dsimon writes:

I think Cotto has to make some major changes to beat Margarito, so in some respects I have to agree with Who.

1) Cotto will never beat Margarito looking like an Auschwitz surviver. He needs to bulk up and get stronger, more density for his weight.

2) Cotto needs to get back to the body and settle down on his punches enough so that they move Margarito. He cannot try to avoid Toney and counter him with flurries. I don't see how he will break this habit frankly.

Margarito may be too strong for Toney. One mistake a lot of people may make is to assume that because Cotto was succesful in the early rounds that this is a good strategy. I don't think so. Cotto has to test his punch and get physically stronger to beat Margarito and he has to do it to the body.

 

There's one thing though, Cotto being in retreat mode for almost the whole fight, he was hitting Margarito off the back foot and I think that takes some steam from your punches. Of Course, if Cotto choose to plant his feet to generate more power that might play against him, but I think his power is adequate enough to make Margarito think.

 

:dunno:

 

At what cost tho? Unless he has Panama Lewis in his corner i don't see how he can significantly hurt Margarito more severely or rapidly than Margarito will do to him considering the size/strength differential. If he stand with Marg he will have a few more moments where he may stun or hurt Marg, but the end result will be the same only it will come faster this time around

 

:dunno:

 

If he takes the fight, I'll be impressed.

 

Cotto has no chance at beating Margarito. None.

He's already dished out his best shots and Margarito kept coming. The way he went out by taking a knee twice, he'll never mentally get past that when in the ring with Margarito.

The rematch won't be any different than Margarito's rematch with Cintron. Margarito took a piece of both those guys with him when he left the ring.

 

I think Miguel can bulk up to be as big as Cotto

 

Intuitively, I see it the same way as you Muzse, but I am not as confident as your are, if anything is absolute about boxing, it's that there's no absolute in boxing.

 

Cotto can win...but to do so he has to box and move and be slick in there. He has to loook for a points win and NOT try to KO Margarito.

 

dsimon's mancrush for James Toney has been seriously exposed in this thread ::... though I sense that he meant "Tony" as in Tony Margarito.


I agree with Who (and Father of Muzse) - I don't see Cotto ever beating Margarito, at least not until TONY shows serious signs of decline. Miguel showed the same flaws and vulnerabilities in the Margarito fight that were evident even four years ago. He'd have to completely change up styles and I'm not sure it's in him - or that he's even good (read: all-around skilled) enough to even pull it off.

 

Agreed! :bears:

 

like i said - he needs Papa Trinidad or Panama Lewis in his corner

 

I hope so::

 

AS long as Margarito can take a shot, Cotto will never beat him. Cotto's entire game is based on intimidation and guys being afraid of taking his best shots.

In his last two fights we saw him in with two guys who could handle his punches and still press him. The 11 rounds of the Margarito fight actually started in the last four or five rounds of the Mosley fight.

The difference is that in Margarito he finally faced a guy who had a size, strength and chin advantage.

That mixture Cotto will never beat. In fact, expect him to take more ass kickings against mediocre junior middleweights once he can't make 147.

 

Respect to Cotto for taking this. I don't put it past him, ironically I've never been so impressed with him as I was in the Margirito fight, if he fight a bit smarter and maintain his pace for 12 he'll beat Tony. 50/50 fight.

 

I think Cotto's best bet is to hope or wait for Margarito to get old.

 

I think Tony can beat Margarito and Miguel can beat cotto

 

Can Floyd Beat Mayweather?

 

Same result, except a few rnds earlier.
Cotto isn't tough enough.

 

Good for Cotto thats what i wanted to hear...He should have a tune-up this year..and then take the rematch vs. Margarito...

 

what if he turns in tight circles the way Baby Bull did? I tend to agree with you, but I see this as Cotto's best and only chance.

You would probably contend that PBF's superior foot-work would allow him to beat Margarito applying Cotto's keep away strategy. Don't be so sure. Margarito is excellent landing punches going forward, meaning that he'd be able to catch PBF during his spin-outs. This was something ODH could only manage on occasion.

 

He simply doesn't have the stamina, endurance, and resistance to punishment.

Cotto is an excellent fighter, but he is not quite tough enough.

His chances in the rematch are minimal, Marge would have to really take him lightly.

 

Did he try to KO Margarito the first time? Maybe you watched a different fight because that's the most I've ever seen Cotto move in a fight. If he moves any more it would be called running. ::