JMM is the best p4p fighter

no he didn't 'lose' it. 3 fat guys said he did and I be damned if I see any reason to give any more weight to their subjective opinion (with all the agendas & pressures that shape them) than to anyone else's. Frankly I'll make MY list based on MY score cards and dsimon should make his based on his own.

 

Did u ever have Roy as p4p no. 1, val?

 

ye ye Marquez gets one little break in his career and people are all over his nuts... Marquez was always the most loved guy on internet message boards...


You must really have a hard time finding reasons to hate on fighters. ::


I agree that Pacman deserves to be in front of him, though and although i really liked his whole gameplan yesterday it rubs me the wrong way to rank Marquez even no. 2.

So this guy is the second best boxer in the world??? Hell Bumtsidis was more decisive early on... ::

 

I thought he lost to Barrera...

 

That's nice, Marquez still lost.

 

Sure, for a long time. :bangh:

 

That's nothing to bang your head on the wall for, man! :cheer:


Roy's resume also wasn't the best in the sport, but he had this WOA factor which is missing for me with Marquez.

 

dsimon writes:

:bears::bears:

Exactly!!! I am not saying that Marquis won or lost.... Hut Hut described perfectly my feeling. The bottom line is that JM fought 3 close hellacious battles with Pacquio, another great fighter. In all those fights they could have gone either way. I said so much in the last decision and think so now.

 

dsimon writes:

Thats nice but it does not mitigate the point Hut Hut made. If you are simple minded enough to let the judges have the final word this way then God Bless you.

 

:bears:
You take the meaning of "giving a fight to Marquez" to whole new level

 

The fact is it was a close fight and JMM lost. Spin it however you want but that's how it is.

 

Yes, but reactions like yours and FreeIke's make me think you really don't like Marquez all that much.

If we want to be really fair about it, it is only very recently that JMM has any kind of following or respect on the boards (these or any other).

Up until relatively recently (very recently considering boxing) he was considered boring; too patient; a choker; blah, blah, blah. Even after the first Pacquiao fight, he didn't get much respect.

And his supposed "fans" aren't nearly as delusional or dogmatic as those of the Trinidad, Jones, Mayweather, DLH, etc. camps.

You'd think JMM was one of those guys by your reaction.

Peace.

 

You can't toss comments out like that without any context, brother Val.

That said, I don't think JMM is #1 PxP.

Peace.

 

Exactly what are these people seeing??? It's not like marquez always got the Kimbo Slice treatment on the internet. :notallthere:

 

3 fat guys said Holyfield scored a draw with Lennox Lewis, that Santa Cruz didn't beat Casamayor, Hearns didn't beat Leonard in the rematch, or that Roy Jones lost in the Olympics. Fuck that, Marquez is the man and he proved it again. Good fighter who deserves a few good pay days along with the status of being one of the best. I'm not saying he's #1, but he's up there.

Cupey

 

Marquez fans are the worst in boxing now.

 

I would also like to add to the Marquez Maricones, his legion of homosexual fans, that Marquez lost LEGITIMATELY to chris John. P4P by left ball. He is a great fighter. I always felt he was a better fighter than Barrera. The Marquez Maricones make me sick. If you listen to them, Pacman never landed a punch on their gay hero much less dropping him 4 times in 24 rounds and giving him free plastic surgery. ::::

 

I thought he beat John clearly in a horrible,horrible, "fight". Still you are right about JMM's fans.

 

YOU DID? I felt that "fight" was so poor it really could have gone either way. If I had been there, I would ave fined both and called it a nc. Don't tell the Marquez Maricones that though. To them, it was Lewis Holyfield I TYPE OF THEFT mixed with Gatti/Ward 1 TYPE OF ACTION.

 

Your posts are funny. I like JMM but he is far from my favourite fighter. He is the best active fighter right now.

No way Chris John beat him and i have watched the 2nd fight between Marquez and Pac 4 times and still can't give Pac 6 rounds minimum which he would need for a win.

These forums are dead right now so i don't get where all these Marquez Maricons fans are.

 

Who are these Marquez fans???


Maybe RAfael Marquez has a few fans in here...but JM?...the only FAN..FAN of Marquez who defends anything he does is LATIN KING.....

 

Mariconquez did good for himself last night, excellent fight. :bears:

Just remember why he was called blockhead after the first Pacquiao fight, add the famous pictures and there really is no need to wonder why people dislike the guy.

 

dsimon writes:

He did it for the Mexican people!

 

Well he didn't do it so that he could become p4p #1 on some icon list, that much is for certain

 

i lovehow all the Marquez Maricones come onto the thread and deny their tootsie rolled stained leader's cock three times. I am not a Marquez fans::::Softies. Anyone that thinks Marquez beat Pacman twice is a member of the Marquez Maricones. The second gayest bandwagon in boxing next to the roid nutticks.

 

I am a fan of marquez and have always admired his ability.

however, unless you already considered the guy the best I don't see how beating an ancient casamayor as something impressive to elevate him to a new plateau

 

He should have had 2 W's over Pac already

The first fight was 11-1 Marquez minus a few knockdowns...

 

I love how you keep talking about fighters you pretend to hate yet you seem to follow thier entire carreers.:cheer:

I know your bullshitting half the time. so it's cool :atu:

 

I thought he beat Pacquiao twice already as well.

however debating those fights are fucking annoying already.

 

dsimon writes:

same here same sentiment as well.

It sort of stood to reason that Marquez's straighter faster punches would land before the bald Cuban's punches. Then you get guys coming on here and saying that somehow Casamayor will change that equation and find a way to win. :notallthere:

No. It does not work that way....