man.. I was suprised that even a little weight makes a big difference! I'm not a real good chinner yet.. years ago when I worked at a gym I was really strong at chinning.. as of now I put a 25lb dumbell in my backpack.. i put 2 in.. but with 50lbs in my backpack I could only get like 4 chins
Your much stronger/more trained than me generally so I dunno if this'll work for you, but I had excellent results with mixing up the weights and rep range. Like Id do a set with a weight I could comfortably do for about 7 or 8, then one about 5 or 6, then about 3 or 4 then finish up with a 2. Then obviously tried to put an extra couple of pounds on each range every time. My strength went way up doing that. Im about he same as you now, I can do about 4 or 5 with 50lb, but bearing in mind your generally way stronger than me, thats pretty successful progress for me on chins. Id imagine you'd get up close to double that fairly quickly if you worked on it. YOu'll be chinning with people on your back in no time. :: Mind you, I only did chins 3 times a fortnight and alternated barbell rows 3x a fortnight as well, I know you prefer more GTG type training so it might not suit you.
we'll see.. it's funny that as a kid I was always great at chins.. as I gained weight even through lifting.. I was still decent.. then I didn't try them for years and years.. I went to a buddy's house and I was shocked that I could only do like 3!!! Now I'm back in "the groove" and it's getting easier and easier.. :cheer:
does it work to do weighted push ups? like put weights in a backpack, or would that mess up your spine...
Nah, it's a great exercise, you just have to work to keep your spine stable the same way you do with Deads or Squats. In fact that's what makes it way superior to the Bench Press (As Rippetoe says is to weighted push ups/dips as lat pull down is to chin ups). Thing is, its difficult to get full ROM without the rucksack/vest getting in your way. The best way to do it is to get three chairs, put your feet on one and put your hands on the two other ones. Not practical at a gym unfortunately, but easy at home.
I can understand the desire to get weighted chins under your belt, LOK. Myself, I'm going to concentrate on regular ones until I get 25-50 reps. That will also allow me to drop my bodyweight as far as I want it to go before I start doing daily weighted chins. As of now, I do daily widegrip chins and I find the difference between what I do now and what I did before to be awesome. I'm going to grease the groove until I get 25 chins per set for every set.
I hear you Buddy.. I'm actually trying to see if by doing some low rep chins with weight.. if that will translate to higher reps without... sometimes it works like that sometimes it doesnt i'm trying to build a dip stand also so I can start doing dips.. at one point I was awesome at dips but have not tryed them in years
Yeah, dips are great too. If I wasn't already doing handstand pushups and incline pushups (with my feet on a bench while my hands are on the floor), I'd work dips into my routine... You know what, I think I'll get some dips in today when I go to the gym to do my circuit training. I don't have a dip apparatus at home, but I do have one at the gym.
The main thing for me is doing my cardio and bodyweight exercises right now, but dips are a very good one as are bench dips. I'll see if maybe I can work them in, but that might just be too many exercises.:dunno:
I'm trying to find or build something to do dips on at home.. I have some stools but they are not tall enough.. if I could hold an L seat I could do them but that seems like it will be hard.. I'm going to try tonight
I think I'll do Bench Dips at home. I got up to 300lbs for 1 rep doing bench dips when I was 21. I should be able to get respectable poundages quickly once again, but first I'll make sure I have a full range of motion by doing just bodyweight first.
LMAO! I can just picture LOKs eureka moment on this - a poor old granny hobbling over the busy street in her zimmer, gesturing towards LOK for help - suddenly all he can think about is throwing her off the damn thing and doing dips with it. :: It's quite engenius nonetheless, Im ordering mine from ebay later.:bears:
Hut.. I know online you can get new one's for 50 bucks or so.. but I got mine at a thrift shop for next to nothing
HutHut nailed this one right on the nose: Lok didn't spend money on a walker. He knocked some old lady out with the watermelon punch and stole her walker. ::
:: my wife was laughing the first day I brought it home.. all excited.. doing my dips.. she said it was a funny site::
I'm thinking about doing weighted chins once or twice a week. I have the chinning bar at home, and I want to be able to do more ropeclimbing in the spring. Looks like I might have to add it twice a week. Maybe I'll resurrect the ropeclimbing thread as well. It's been awhile since I've done some climbing, and it really muscles up the whole body. BTW, I tried to do a muscleup on a soccer net crossbar last night and almost got it, but the bar was wet from rain so no go. :: If I do chins with increasingly heavier and heavier weights, I'll be shooting up that rope in the spring. :bears:
My mistake was in not using my legs to get kick off. Then the bar was just too slippery when I clued in after a few tries.
you know.. watching calisthenics kingz, he really kinda swings up into the muscle up.. it's not a strict pulling up the way he does it..
I'll do a few sets tonight. For some reason my arms were dead today, and I wasn't even trying anywhere near my highest number of reps. I was only doing sets of 10 in chins and still felt deadsville.
i prolly wont get much lighter.. maybe a little but I'm just getting leaner but putting on a little muscle too..
