Roy Jones Jr. Ready For Joe Calzaghe

dsimon writes:

Your post is absurd and illogical. If he wins 7 rounds small and not big I believe he would still get the fight yes? Have you been hanging around Ugo in Scandinavia lately?

 

Im just saying the rounds he wins he is going to have to win big to stop Calzaghe from getting off alot in the rounds were Roy can't fight in. You understand what im saying?

 

hopefully rjj's hand-speed will intimidate slappy and cause his work-rate to decline, thereby winning a decision.

if you see sloppy rolling his gloves the way telesco did, trying to be active but with fear of repercussions, rjj wil win decision.

i doubt rjj kos sloppy.

if there's a ko, it'll be sloppy stopping rjj - unlikely imo.

 

My only worry in this fight is RJ's Punch resistance.

 

You're right on there, but I think Calzaghe will make Roy look really good by the opportunities available for countering.

BTW: Casamayor looks like Holyfield in your sig.

 

And that relates to my post how? Or are you just trying to make an impression to Stevedave by harassing me?

Calzaghe won the fight, clearly, by outhustling Hopkins. That is probably what he will try to do against Jones too. And IMHO the fact that Hopkins caught him with two good shots isn't enough proof for that it won't work against Roy.

 

dsimon writes:

Nope, not at all... bit thanks for trying to clarify. If Calzighe beats roy from pillar to post for 5 rounds and loses the rest of the fight then Roy would theoretically win the fight.

 

that's math 101 huh Dsimon?::

 

hey D... do you think anyone here is shitting in the others mouth?

 

dsimon and LOK, are you being dense for the sake of being dense?

RJJ is questioning Roy's ability to FIGHT from 1-12, and will most likely wind up giving away a few rounds for the sake of preservin himself.

In that sense he's limiting his number of chances to win at least seven rounds. Instead of 7 out of 12, it now becomes 7 out of 10 or even 7 out of 8. Joes not the type of fighter where you can pick your spots en route to stealing 7 rounds - esp not todays version of Roy.

 

How EXACTLY Does Calzaghe "Know what to Expect" from Jones???:dunno:...

He's NEVER Faced a Fighter w/Roy's HANDSPEED, ACCURACY, COUNTERPUNCHING Ability & Arguably POWER...

It Seems to REED that YOU'RE the 1 Making Pretty Big Conclusions Here...


REED:hammert:

 

dsimon writes:

No but I predict a rebuttal from jake that will shake this thread to its very foundations!!!!!:crafty:

 

dsimon writes:

And he can't say that as you did because?......

I do understand the point now, but why would any fighter go in there and say "I am going to try to win 7 rounds, or 11 rounds? You try to streal as many rounds as you can and maybe as a strategy try to fight hard for as many rounds as you can, you don't choose to fight hard for 5 rounds!

 

Ok ill explain in more detail. The rounds that Roy Jones wins he is gonna have to win big not so that he can just win a decision. So Joe C doesn't KTFO him in the rounds he takes off. I know that if Roy wins 7 rounds big or small he wins the fight. With Roy's crappy chin his counter punching is gonna have to be on point so Calzaghe isn't throwing bombs at him when he is busy looking at Joe C because of his age.

 

when was the last time Joe threw bombs? ::

I get your point though. ::

 

Man he throws them slaps out there good and hard.

Roys chin is as bad as Arturo Gatti's defence so they can still KTFO him.

 

The thing is that he knows Jones possesses all those attributes and will not be as careless as he was against Hopkins early. And after he got taste of Bernard's counter, he didn't make the same mistake anymore, so he isn't easy to counter at all

 

WAR RJJ!!!!!

 

dsimon writes:

Yes, he cannot fag himself out in his efforts. And its true that Hopkins is a master at pacing himsef in a situation like this, while Roy has had some serious problems.

The best example of your point is the Glencoffe fight. Joe is about as active and Glen exhausted Roy. Joe could do the same... this is in fact a very real concern for Jones.

 

The thing you guys are overlooking is Joe is shot too. Completely shot. It is also always a bad thing when a fighter like Joe has always been faster than his opponents and he won't be. Roy could win this fight. Both are way past it.

 

Fucking LAME...

U're ALREADY Giving Yourself an OUT, AFTER Roy WHIPS his Fucking Ass....

N His PRIME, Roy Jones Would've WIPED his Ass w/Calzaghe WORSE than REED ROUTINELY Wipes his Ass AND NUTS w/YOU...But Now Roy will B Fucking 40 in January, yet YOU Wanna Focus on CALZAGHE Being "Shot"???:dunno:...

Comical...But Since U're "SHITS & GIGGLES", the Court Jester of Fightbeat, that's to B EXPECTED...


REED:kidcool:

 

Such gayness. I am not interested. Sorry. I think Roy would beat Joe then and now. I also know Roy wouldn't take this fight if he thought Joe had anything left. Reluctant Roy showing his lack of balls once again.

 

I'm hoping like hell Roy turns back the clock 8 years and fucks Joe up, but I'm picking Calz by UD. Roy just wont let his hands go enough.

 

dsimon writes:

He lets em go in the center of the ring but thats it. The probem is that Roy fights on instinct and when he isn't right he can't really adjust. Joe on th other hand can adjust and stay away from the center of the ring. He can basically slap his way to victory on the ropes and when Roy is setting up.

 

The only advantage Calzaghe has in this fight is chin.

 

Exactly.

 

It is a fact that both of them are past their prime, Jones more so of course but Calzaghe too is closing to his forties and has almost fifty fights under his belt. No way he is in his prime even thogh he is now better known than ever

 

dsimon writes:

You and Ike really think so? What about punching volume? That is the main thing that concerns people I think. Nobody doubts that if RJ has his moments he won't be succesful for the duration... the concern is how many of those moments he can conjur up.

Honestly I am on the fence on this one so I am listening. Frankly this fight is a splitter... i.e. it has the usually knowledgable people split on who will take the bacon home on this one. I do not count myself as one of the knowlagabe ones as my latest predictions have been offfff!!! :doh:

So it does not suprise me that i don't see a clear winner. I see a couple of scenerios though.

1) Joe exhausts Roy like Glen Johnson did.

2) Joe flurries on Roy when Roy tries to set up... Roy sets up now where as before he didn't need too.

3) Joe otherwise volume slaps Roy to victory in the same shitty way he did when Bernard otherwise beat his ass.

Or,

1) Roy beats Joe up in the center of the ring with his speed and stops Joe with footwork from beating him up in the corners... (not likely in my estimation). Problem being that virtually every guy in the last few years has been able to hit Roy in the corners.

2) Roy gets there first on some of the exchanges and neutalizes Joe? But how? Again Roy does not tie up well lately.

Neither guy has a body attack and Roy is not Knocking Joe out. Unless Jones absolutely dominates with his assets of speed and power he can't win this fight.

Under these conditions I can only hope I am wrong but assume that Joe will win the fight by decision.

 

Valid scenarios for sure, but I really think the RJJ that beat Tito would beat the Calzaghe that "beat" Hopkins. Calzaghe is not really a trap you in the corner and pound on you fighter, he gives plenty of distance for RJJ to slip out of the corner. The question is if RJJ has the legs to, and I believe he does.

 

dsimon writes:

True. That is it in a nutshell.