Norton by kayo because he had decent size and a decent set of skills. That combo spells doom for the chinny cruiserweight.
Louis was less than 10lb lighter than Shavers, was 5x as skilled and hit just as hard. Too hard for Norton.
Yeah, but the Shavers fight around the same time of Norton's career when he was getting knocked down and held to a draw by Scott LeDoux. I wouldn't put too much stock in the Shavers-Norton fight. It's like drawing conclusions on Louis based on the post championship part of his career. And...Norton was a better heavy than Schmeling or anyone else Louis faced in his entire career. Louis could possibly KO Norton, but it's not like Louis' chin was made of steel, either. If Max Schmeling could KO Louis, and various lesser (than Norton) heavies could drop Louis, it certainly isn't out order to suggest that Norton could as well. There's no doubt that Louis rates higher than Norton in an All-Time ranking list, but in the ring, I see it as a pick-em fight. I see Norton's physical advantages, unorthodox style, body attack and overhand right allowing him to give Louis all he wants and then some.
I could see Ken's awkwardness and style giving Joe fits for a while. Louis probably would probably even get knocked down but he'd get up and break Norton down. I think Louis starts to time and punish Norton and kayos him in the middle or late rounds.
Norton was strong and awkward, but he's be outclassed by Louis in this one. Louis busts him up and stops him 7 or 8 rds.
In my opinion, Norton is always seriously overrated simply because he was Ali's achille's heal. Outside of Ali, Norton only looked good against middle-of-the-road Heavyweights. To me there are 3 versions of Norton: 1) The guy that got bounced off the canvas by Garcia, Shavers and Foreman 2) The guy that beat up on punching bags like Bobick, Quarry, Stander and Zanon 3) The guy that went tooth and nail with bums like Young, LeDoux and Cobb. None of those versions is worthy of the status Norton is typically given. If you want to give Norton marginal 'greatness' status because he had a style that was difficult for a slower, flat-footed version of Ali, go ahead. But personally I never thought much of him. A prime Louis makes Norton look clumsy and slow before stopping him in 6 or 7 rounds.
Nonsense. You overrated Norton. He'd give Louis some problems early with his crab defense and awkward style (and decent hooks) but once Louis settles in..Norton would be a stationary perfect target for Louis' merciless accuracy and crippling power.
Speaking of nonsense...pretty much everything you subject the forum members to is nonsense. And since you are so sure that Louis wins...that makes me give Norton more of a chance that I originally thought. Norton wasn't one of the Bum of Month clubs members that Louis feasted on in his heyday. He was a big, strong heavy with good (if a bit unorthodox) skills. It's a good fight and I wouldn't be suprised to see either fighter win.
No, you're right. Norton was a heavyweight that got brutalized by the world famous Jose Luis Garcia. No, you're right. Norton was a heavyweight that went tooth and nail with such HW monsters as LeDoux and Cobb. You're right, Norton certainly wasn't part of the Bum of the Month club, but only because he didn't fight in 30's or 40's. Otherwise he certainly would have qualified.
Ummm....the LeDoux and Cobb fights came at the end of Norton's career, one just before he retired and one after he had come out of retirement. Do you even know this, or did you just look up Norton's career on BoxRec? And, sure, he lost to Garcia, but then came back and KOed him in a rematch. Which you also didn't mention. Norton was more than competitive with two of the best heavies of all time. I notice you didn't mention that he was the toughest fight of Larry Holmes' prime.And this fight took place at a time where Holmes was in his prime and Norton's career was nearing its end. Norton was a better fighter than ANYONE Louis ever fought. So save your sarcasm since you don't seem to know all that much about Norton.
Broadwayjoe ko1 triplesec and slystaff in the same thread. ray:ray:Norton would beat the shit out of the chinny cruiser no question at all.
