I call it right now: KIMBO won't...

Kimbo wasn't considered a bum like that guy was. I don't think that many people would have been betting on the underdog, the odds should have been higher, I said it again.

 

up until that post i wasn't sure how much you know about betting markets and value odds... but appearantly it's not enough to get more than a :atu: from me, sorry.

 

Yeah, I don't know much....only been betting in Vegas on fights for 16 years and have NEVER lost Granted I only bet once or twice a year, but my record speaks for itself, and my longevity on betting speaks of experience which you have NO point. Those odds should have been higher, if everyone was betting on Kimbo (which they should have been given he was a last minute UNKNOWN replacement, and Kimbo has a fan base) then the odds should have been BIGGER for the unknowner.....simple LOGIC, shit....you don't even have to be experienced in betting to know that, terrible try.

 

Yeah and you are wrong. The fact is money poured in on the underdog. What exactly had Kimbo accomplished that made him so much better than Petruzelli? Anyone who actually watched the 2 guys fight before knew Petruzelli was live. Unknown replacement? Seriously you don't know what you are talking about. Petruzelli has fought in the UFC on more than 1 occasion. Petruzelli has some losses big deal, he has fought a MUCH higher level opposition that Kimbo.

Let's evaluate kimbo and see what made him such a huge favorite. he fought some bum who was scared shitless in his first fight. Uh huh, real impressive. He fought a 100 year old tank Abbott who showed up to collect a check. After that he faced James Thompson who almost beat him. Sorry but really good MMA fighters don't almost lose to James Thompson. So Kimbo was 3-0 with only 1 semi quality win where he almost lost. Tell me again why he should have been such a huge favorite? :dunno:

 

OBVIOUSLY money poured in on the underdog which I said, how you claim I don't know what I am talking about in this regard about betting is lunacy. Should have been better, Kimbo was known and had a fan base, the other guy......? You can always count on stupid money in Vegas, but not enough to bring Kimbo down to the odds it turned out. You should know mainstream determines the odds better than knowledge of a sport, otherwise I would never make money, neither would you. You think his prior competition was less than this bum by a wide margin, I don't.

 

The other guy had actually fought in the most successfull promotion. :dunno::doh: What are you talking about? The fact is people did NOT bet Kimbo this fight and the books took an absolute ass kicking. The fact is if the odds would have started higher, the books would have lost EVEN MORE MONEY!! People were gobbling up anywhere from +300 to +475 and you think the line should have been +800? You sure would make a bad bookmaker.

 

I am saying (for the third time) money should have been spent on Kimbo, the other should have not been shit put on him. I wouldn't make a bad bookmaker because my odds would be EXACTLY where the money dictates because I understand how it works. You have a problem with me thinking Kimbo should have been a higher betting favorite, didn't turn out that way......you have a hard time comprehending anything I say, so I will take it as you want to just argue, however I don't think you can after this post, we will see.

 

It's your opinion against mine. What exactly is your opinion based on? You say Petruzelli is a bum, I say he's not. I say he has fought in bigger organizations and fought better fighters than Kimbo. MMA odds in general are simply not going to reach +800 unless it is a HUGE mismatch. In this case a lot of people gave Petruzelli a chance. Does that sound like a huge mismatch to you? Sorry but the line as it was, was to high. People fell for the hype and were wrong. :: We can go on as long as you like I really don't care.

 

Does hindsight sound like a mismatch? Usually not.

 

All I can say is look around at opinions at various places before the fight. There were plenty of people who thought Petruzelli would beat that fraud. That's not hindsight.

 

Plenty of haters, I'm sure the same people predicted his loss in every fight so far, even Mercer ::

 

Actually the odds didn't really make sense. Petruzelli is a much better fighter than Shamrock right now. Hell Shamrock was coming off a loss to a guy with 9 or 10 losses if I remember right. Here was my comment when Shitty Shamrock pulled out (from somewhere else)...



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I should have listened to all the know-it-alls and predicted a lazy jab to split Kimbos eye and knock him out on a shot that he has taken many times. If anything I would have thought he would have lost by MMA, not a stand up lazy jab, but what do I know compared to everyone else who knew it all along ::

 

Sarcasm doesn't work when it's happened before. Kimbo got dropped by a bullshit punch in 1 of his backyard fights as well.

 

Of course he did, I said I thought the odds for him should have been betterld:

 

What the hell are you doing responding to a post from 15 posts ago :atu: You already responded to it once and I responded back already. :laughing: To funny. You are so frustrated you don't even know what to respond to any more. LOL

 

I was hoping repeating myself you would get it, I was wrong again :crying:

 

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You can repeat bullshit all you want and it's still bullshit. Maybe I should go 20 posts back and respond to 1 of your posts? :doh: Christ that is dumb. You already got schooled to no end on this thread and you just continue on..........

 

I got schooled because I understand how odds work afterall and I had to tell you what your REAL issue is? You STILL don't get it ::

You think bookmakers put odds down what they think they should, maybe at opening line....but after that they don't. Keep telling yourself I got schooled :: Maybe you will believe it....

 

You got schooled because you don't know how odds work, and more importantly you don't know that Petruzelli wasn't a bum. If the books were as stupid as you think they should be they would have lost TWICE as much money (approximately). Petruzelli fought in the UFC more than 1 time and here you are calling him a bum when he is fighting a street fighter. :atu:

 

You proved you don't know how odds work by saying bookmakers GUESS what the odds should be instead of where the money is at in determining odds ::

 

Two forums, two schoolings. You're doing well Turden.

 

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Really? Where did I say that? I guess you have to make stuff up now. Bookmakers put out the odds and adjust them when the money comes in. Period. The fact is HisRoyness made a good bet. You can talk shit all you want, it just shows your lack of knowledge. When you bet a line at +475 and it closes at +310, well you do the math genius.

 

No, I would not because you don't make the odds according to what you THINK. OWNED.

I never, EVER claimed Royness made a bad bet or talked shit about his bet, reading is fundamental.

 

The only thing owned is your complete and utter lack of knowledge of bookmaking. Unreal. Yeah making that line at +800 would have been real smart. Instead of books losing 100K+ they could have lost double that. :laughing: The fact is you said +475 wasn't that good of a number. In fact you called it "terrible odds". You are a joke. :laughing:

 

Does MMA have a different definition of what a jab is? It wasn´t a very hard punch, but it wasn´t a jab either. Is Petruzelli even a southpaw?

And I doubt Kimbo took a dive the way his legs stiffened.

 

Looked like old red head was holding the cage :dunno:

 

:atu::atu:kIMBO BLOWS

 

One more time, you do NOT make the line +800 because you THINK it should be that, complete ownage :atu:No clue how odds are made.

I said it was terrible odds because there shouldn't be that much money going to a last minute replacement who is relatively unknown (unless it was a dive).....of course the revisionists like you will claim "you should have known a lazy jab would KO him, not the art of MMA itself " :doh: