Can Randy Couture beat Brock Lesnar?

Discussion in 'General MMA Discussion' started by Hanz, Oct 26, 2008.

  1. ArturoGatti

    ArturoGatti WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    How is Lesnar getting a title shot? I thought Noguiera was the champion.
     
  2. royyjonesjrp4pno1

    royyjonesjrp4pno1 "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    I did too. Didn't they give him the belt after he beat the bum champion of MMA Tim Sylvia.
     
  3. Hanz

    Hanz Roberto Duran

    Randy left the company while still champion. So they made an 'interim' championship for Noguira.
     
  4. jarhead

    jarhead Undisputed Champion

    good post Z

    I am willing to bet many fighters have done or even tried roids in the past. As long as he passes the tests now, I'm fine. I said the same thing about Barnett and Rampage.
     
  5. Beyond the Grave

    Beyond the Grave Undisputed Champion

    Brocks best chance is to take Randy out early.If he doesn't do that he will have problems down the stretch(I'm not sold on his conditioning).I expect Couture and Big NOG to win there respective matches and then set up the fight that should of happened in the first place.......wow. Couture vs Nogeira I've always wanted to see these two fight :)
     
  6. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Here is something to think about. When was the last time someone was able to take Couture down and what was he able to do off his back? I really can't think of the last time Randy was on the bottom on the ground.
     
  7. jarhead

    jarhead Undisputed Champion

    good call BYG. I have always wanted to see Nog/Couture as well. I am thinking Couture's best chance as well is to take Brock into deep waters and test his conditioning. I would hope Brock would be up to the task since this is the most important fight of his life.
     
  8. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Brock is no stranger to good conditioning. I seriously doubt either guy gasses in this fight.
     
  9. jarhead

    jarhead Undisputed Champion


    I made a similar post earlier. Anyone that wins an NCAA national championship in wrestling knows how to condition. Now I don't know what kind of training Brock does, but I am sure he is taking this fight seriously, at least I'd hope so.
     
  10. Beyond the Grave

    Beyond the Grave Undisputed Champion

    He can condition for wrestling sure..but MMA is a whole another beast though.
     
  11. jarhead

    jarhead Undisputed Champion

    It is different. I grant you that. But GENERALLY speaking wrestlers have good cardio and conditioning. Koshchek, Guida, Maynard, Ortiz, Pulver, Faber, Sherk, Hughes, Henderson, and a million more. I'm not sure about Lesnar, he hasn't had his conditioning tested yet, I'm just saying he comes from a great pedigree in wrestling and for the most part wrestlers have motors that keep on turning.
     
    Last edited: Oct 31, 2008
  12. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

    Ricco Rodriguez is the last I can remember. Randy was stopped.
     
  13. TFK

    TFK WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ


    The guys you mentioned aren't cutting to get to 265. That's a lot of weight to take 5 rounds.


    TFK
     
  14. Beyond the Grave

    Beyond the Grave Undisputed Champion

    I would leave Hendo out of it..he's never showed great stamina.As for Lesnar,he's not as small as those guys,carrying around 265 of muscle for 5 MMA rounds will be a problem IMO.
     
  15. jarhead

    jarhead Undisputed Champion

    You and TFK bring up solid points. All I am stating is I am sure Brock is no stranger to conditioning with his wrestling background. Lets see if it translates over into MMA for him. I know if I was Randy, my gameplan would be to take him into late rounds and keeping it standing.
     
  16. TFK

    TFK WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Frustration can work wonders against good cardio. If Randy can frustrate Brock, he can gas him.

    TFK
     
  17. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

    I know this is nothing, but i liked the video anyways. There is a video out there with his whole training in the WWE and its pretty intense. These are just snippets.

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  18. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

    just for fun here is the rock's training for that same fight.

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  19. Hanz

    Hanz Roberto Duran


    What a load of rubbish. :lol: Those training videos were just a way to hype the Lesnar/Rock Summerslam main event. None of these wrestlers train like this. They don't have that kind of time. They're living off a suitcase, travelling from one city to another, just trying to keep their bodies and wits together through painkillers and steroids. That's what drove Lesnar out of the pro wrestling industry altogether.
     
  20. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

    There is a longer video out there with the training. Its on a Brock Lesner DVD. You see about 45 minutes of his training. Its intense.
     
  21. Hanz

    Hanz Roberto Duran

    6 days to go...
     

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