Chris Arreola: "I deserve all the criticism for coming in at 258lbs"

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    Are you insane? We're talking about Povetkin and Areola, and it's Povs you call a slow moving oaf? Povs is quick for a heavyweight. Quick hands, good combos, and decent footwork too. He is not slow, or an oaf. He is pretty athletic. It's how he gets away with being undersized by today's standards.

    He is better than areola in every conceivable way, including defense, and if they do every fight, I'll bet you any amount of money you want that Povetkin wins.

    And areola is proven tough? WTF? Who has he even fought to prove that? He fought the hardest puncher of his career on saturday, and was getting beaten up, and was decked, before coming back to win the fight.

    Sure he showed heart, but if he was tough, he wouldn't have been hurt in the first place.

    Povs has fought much better competition, and done better against them. Has areola even fought a top 20 heavyweight>?
     
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    Yeah.. wtf slow oaf... :atu:
     
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    I'm 'obsessed' because it's a clear PHYSICAL demonstration of the fact that they haven't trained like they should have. That pisses me off! If they win, I know they've done it despite not training properly and that I've been robbed of seeing them at their best. If they lose there are a hundred questions about what might have happened if they were at their best and I'm robbed of a conclusive, meaningful fight. Either way, I don't get to see a good, high paced fight between dedicated fighters trying their best (has there ever been a great fight, committed fight between fat asses? Very few because the mentality of the training camp carries over into the ring!). And moreover they've clearly demonstrated a total & utter fucking contempt for the sport itself and for those chumps who pay for the tickets and PPvs that put food on their table.:shit:

    And FFS, look at the state of the division since these lard asses came on the scene! People talk about 'talent drying up', but can you imagine if every fighter in the top 50 trained with the dedication of the 60's & 70's generation? Were Bonavena, Ellis, Lyle, etc really that 'talented' or were they just hardworking guys who trained properly for every fight and gave it their all? Would Rahman, Johnson, Tua, etc not have ended up being remember as being just as 'talented' if they had the same attitude?

    In the end the only guys who've risen to the top over the last 20 years and made a career for themselves that people will talk about in 30 years (and I count exactly 5) have been guys who came into every fight during their primes in peak condition. That's the only thing they have in common, and it's the same thing that differentiates them from every other heavyweight of the last 20 years. Imagine how great the division might have been if every guy trained like those guys on a consistent basis? Nobody else did. :bangh:

    To conclude, fat heavyweights may be the most deplorable, smelly & wretched group of human being walking this planet right now, besides Rangers supporters. :warning: Moreover, they're right up there with modern amateur boxing at the top of any list of boxing's problems circa 2008.
     
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    Sadly, most of his work is probably done at the bar or buffet table.
     
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    His hands and feet were slow. I though it was an awful fight.
     
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    we will have to agree to disagree on this. I like Arreola, he's funny and has an appealing style.

    As I've said, the Klitschkos would butcher him, but I am not as high on povetkin as others apparently and think Chris could hang with second tier HW's (those not named Klitschko) for now.
     
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    Arreola should be built up in the So. Cal circuit against similarly abled heavyewights.

    He's a bit of a novelty, a reasonably decent Mexican American heavyweight.

    It would be a mistake to ruin what could be a relatively good So Cal attraction by feeding him to either Klitschko without trying to max out what possible gate potential he has in the region.

    I don't like his chances at all against Povetkin

    He should fight guys like Barrett and Austin...and not on HBO, IMO.
     
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    If you prefer Areola, that's fine. I mean, I can see he has a certain "Inmate Pug" sort of appeal.

    But seriously, Povs is a slow oaf, in conversation regarding Areola?

    Povetkin is faster than Areola, both hands and feet, simple as that. Just watch their last fights respectively.

    Povetkin is also far more precise, he is accurate and picks his spots, there is nothing "oaf"ish about him. If anyone is an oaf, it's Areola.

    I'm not super high on Povs either, I don't think he is the second coming, he'd get battered by both Klitschkos, that's pretty obvious.

    But he is nothing if not quick and skilled, he is pretty different to most of the HW division, who certainly do fall into the oafish category.
     
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    Agree.
     
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    I need to watch his beatdown of Eddie Chambers again.
     
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    Unlike a UFC fighter, Arreola would be undefeated if he fought 2-1 fighters, so dn't despair, my friend.
     
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    This is true. Thanks for that.
     

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