This may explain Mosley's 2nd win over DLH

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Mosley testimony released!
A U.S. District Court judge has unsealed thousands of previously court-protected documents from the BALCO drug case including former world champion "Sugar" Shane Mosley's 2003 grand jury testimony. According to the New York Daily News, Mosley testified that he injected himself with EPO before his second fight with Oscar De La Hoya, who ironically is now his business partner. Mosley is scheduled to challenge WBA welterweight champion Antonio Margarito on January 24th[/FONT]

 

Old news, but yeah.

He claimed he "didn't know" it was illegal, but injected it in his stomach.

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damn, I heard some rumors, but didn't know it was for the oscar fight. He looked BIG in that fight.

 

Didn't he win the rematch because of some corrupt officials?

 

Now that the BALCO stuff is out there with Mosley injecting himself with something he didnt know was a steroid , It's too bad Fightbeat wouldn't bother attempting getting an interview with Victor Conte himself.

 

epo isnt balco right ? I dont see the connection. but yeah its a travesty the way these athletes are forced to experiment on themselves just to get that edge. I think Mosley would beat DLH either way though. although he might need an edge vs Margarito soon.

 

Shane probably thought it was injectable vitamins.

 

EPO is not a steroid but an illegal supplement that increases blood's ability to carry oxygen (I don't know any of the terms but that is the idea). Athletes such as cyclists, long distance runners and cross-countryskiiers use it all the time. So EPO doesn't make muscles grow but it increases stamina

 

But since Mosley was never caught, he is also clean. Correct, Reed?:atu:

 

EPO lets you produce more red blood cells.. it is NOT steroids..

all the cyclist take EPo..

He whupped DLH cuz he is his daddy

 

He was clearly on something. And now we know exactly what it was. If nothing else, I think it improved his stamina and durability.

We all know ODH is a hard puncher and yet Mosley wasn't discouraged in the least by the shots he took from ODH in the fight.

I still think he lost that fight. But watching it, I did get the sense that ODH was fighting off something super-human. What's amazing is that I think he succeeded. He just didn't get the decision he deserved.

Either way, I think ODH gave a better account of himself in that fight than Mosley did.

Pretty funny if you think about it. First he takes on and beats a juiced up Vargas. Then he fends off a drugged up Mosely in what I thought was a decision win.

My guess is Hopkins took EPO for most of his middleweight reign too.

 

EPO basically simulates high altitude training. WHen you're up in the mountains, your body produces more red blood cells due to the oxygen levels at a high altitude. Then, when you go back down to lower altitudes, your increased red blood cell count gives you more stanima. Oxygen tanks do the same thing. Michael Jackson made it popular. TO has one. So does Greg Landis, and he says that's a reason why he failed his test.



You guys need to realize that a very large majority of the boxers we see on TV are on steroids.

 

i agree. there's many variants of steroids. you don't have to look like a bodybuilder to benefit from steroids.

 

And other athletes too. This is just too painful for some to admit

 

:atu:damn, you really do make his loss sound spectacular

 

...it was a close enough victory to make a difference....i wonder what impact, if any, it will have on Shane and Oscar's partnership

 

So that makes two guys Oscar beat that were on something. I thought Mosley lost that fight.

 

Incorrect. Mosley is remembered by most for complaining about Oscar's left hook between rounds in that fight.

 

cheating f*ck. everybody here said it at the weigh-in before that fight. Mosley was taking illegal stuff. Everyone knew it. That result should be changed to a DQ.

 

with EPO the effects shouldn't be visible from physical appearance


....skinny cyclists and long distance runners who have taken a hit still can look undernourished

 

He would of won anyway.:stir:

 

No, I think it was when you get caught once, you are clean, Royd? I mean right.

 

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/m...sugar_shane_mosley_told_grand_jury_of_ep.html

Boxer "Sugar" Shane Mosley testified in 2003 that he injected himself with the notorious doping agent EPO as he prepared for his light-middleweight title fight against Oscar De La Hoya, according to grand jury transcripts and doping calendars reviewed by the Daily News.

The Mosley transcripts are part of a massive BALCO file that was under a protective order from March of 2004 until last week, when U.S District Court Judge Susan Illston vacated the order at the request of prosecutors who are preparing for the March 2 trial of Barry Bonds on perjury charges.

In the testimony, recorded on Dec. 11, 2003, at the federal courthouse in San Francisco, Mosley also said that BALCO founder Victor Conte explained in detail how the drug was used and what its effects would be, including the potential harmful effects of the highly-regulated endurance booster. Mosley has admitted publicly and under oath that he used steroids and EPO, but has denied knowing that the drugs were banned or illegal.

When asked if he had gotten EPO from Conte, Mosley replied: "Yes, the hematocrit."

"And that's something you actually inject into yourself?" he was asked by Assistant U.S. Attorney Jeff Nedrow.

"I think it's right by your stomach, yes," Mosley said, indicating where the drug is often injected.

Conte has said he instructed Mosley on techniques for drawing EPO from a bottle with a syringe and injecting it in each side of the belly button in what is known as "double-saturation" injections.

At one point in the questioning, Nedrow produced a calendar seized from the BALCO lab showing Mosley used a potent cocktail of steroids and EPO right up until a few days before his victorious fight with De La Hoya on Sept. 13, 2003. The calendars denote which days Mosley was supposed to take which substances.

Mosley acknowledged that the calendar, marked "S.M.," contained instructions for him, and that the prices scribbled on the margins corresponded with the money he owed Conte for the treatments. (Conte, who estimates Mosley injected himself 20 times on each side of his belly button in the month before the fight, says he drew up the calendar while Mosley watched.)

Nedrow then pointed to the letter "E," which appears on the calendars at regular intervals in July and August.

"E, are those the injections of the EPO?," Nedrow asked Mosley.

"Yes, those would be the days," Mosley answered.
Conte is embroiled in a bitter defamation suit filed against him by Mosley, who claimed in U.S. District Court in California that the BALCO founder had defamed him when he told reporters, including the Daily News, that Mosley had knowingly used performance-enhancing drugs. Mosley withdrew that suit in August, refiling immediately in New York state court. Mosley also threatened to sue the publisher of Conte's book, and Conte's lawyers received an e-mail today from Skyhorse Publishing saying they no longer plan to publish the book because of the lawsuit threat.

As a result, Conte is now looking for a new publisher for his controversial book.

Mosley, who will fight Antonio Margarito on Jan. 24, 2009 in an HBO-televised fight for the world welterweight championship, gave his testimony to the same grand jury before which Barry Bonds allegedly committed perjury. Although he has claimed since then that he thought BALCO's injectibles were safe and legal supplements, Mosley made it clear to the grand jury that he was worried the products Conte provided him were possibly dangerous.

"He explained to me also that - I think if you - if you take too much of it, your blood can get too thick and, you know, it can be bad for you," Mosley testified.

EPO affects a person's hematocrit, increasing the number of oxygen-rich red blood cells and thereby boosting endurance. It is banned in Olympic sports and its widespread abuse has all but destroyed the sport of cycling in recent years.

Mosley's attorney Judd Burstein said that the testimony was consistent with all other claims Mosley has made under oath in the intervening years. "I am very relieved that this grand jury testimony has been released because it confirms that Shane has consistently recounted his dealings with Conte from 2003 to today," Burstein said.

Earlier this year, Burstein told the L.A. Times that his client "wouldn't know a hematocrit from a chromatic print," but in fact Mosley described hematocrit levels in detail during his grand jury testimony.

"[Conte] told me that, you know, the hematocrit level was supposed to be at a certain level," Mosley testified. "And like cyclists and a lot of long distance runners and stuff like that use it… he explained that to me and I said: 'Okay, that's something that I can do to get my endurance as high as it can possibly be."
Conte confirmed that account to the Daily News on Tuesday.

"Mosley asked me about the positive effects of using EPO and how he would benefit from using it as a boxer," Conte said. "He certainly knew that it was EPO and there are three witnesses that were there that day when he was told about it and did his first EPO injection in front of us. I also told him that 'the clear' and 'the cream' were undetectable steroids that would not create a positive test. Shane Mosley has been lying publicly about his use of performance enhancing drugs and there is plenty of evidence to prove that fact. It is despicable that he continues to abuse the judicial system for his own financial gain by telling lies."

Mosley was also questioned about his use of the designer steroids "the cream" (testosterone and epitestosterone) and "the clear" (THG), which are also written on his calendars.

"I didn't think that any of this was steroids," Mosley said. "I told Victor, you know, I told him that, you know, boxers don't really need steroids in the first place, because you know, steroids don't do anything. Boxing is basically from the mind…"

Mosley told Nedrow he thought the clear was actually flaxseed oil, a similar argument to the one used by Barry Bonds and other athletes who have been accused of using "the clear."

Nedrow asked Mosley, "Did you know it was something besides flaxseed oil?"

Mosley: "Well, I wasn't sure exactly what it was."

 

I believe Shane, he thought it was short for shaving cream and clearasil. Stupid haters. :warning:

 

Shane looked mediocre in that fight, and I recall scoring it 8-4 or 7-5 for DLH. So if he was using substances to enhance his performance, I'd hate to see how badly he could've been beaten without them.

 

Shane looked bad in that fight. Other than the one with Mayorga it's the slowest he's ever been. ODLH was faster than him that night.

 

Still WAITING on the "Proof" YOU Claim is Out There, Linking Roy Jones to BALCO...

REED Certainly AIN'T Holding his Breath though, Mija...



REED:boohoo:

 

The Mere FACT that Sugar Shane had to Testify N the BALCO Case Led MOST to Believe he was Using Roids...So this News ISN'T the Least Bit Surprising...

Is Roy LINKED to BALCO???:dunno:...If so, it Should B EASY to Find it, Right???...

It Must SUCK to WANT Roy Jones to B on Steroids as BADLY as YOU Do, w/Out Having Sufficient Evidence that he Is...20 Years from Now, when U Still HAVEN'T Proven Shit, U'll Watch Boxing Tapes of Roy & Tell your Grandkids, "He was on Steroids"....


REED:boohoo: